Exercises for 'The Guns'

bulldozer · 12-09-2007, 11:50 AM

If you dont work your hips/legs and back. i.e squats/ deadlifts and all varients of those your NOT going to reach your growth potential in your upper body. FACT!!

**Bodyworks** · 12-09-2007, 11:53 AM

next arm workout use half the weight and rep slowly. very slowly. your arms will be killing you afterwards.

**Tall** · 12-09-2007, 12:01 PM

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Originally Posted by bulldozer

If you dont work your hips/legs and back. i.e squats/ deadlifts and all varients of those your NOT going to reach your growth potential in your upper body. FACT!!

Morning Bully.

Are you saying everyone must deadlift and squat for full growth potential or are you saying that everyone should work their legs/hips and back

(Just clarifying

)

bulldozer · 12-09-2007, 12:03 PM

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Originally Posted by TallHeavyAndSkinny

Morning Bully.

Are you saying everyone must deadlift and squat for full growth potential or are you saying that everyone should work their legs/hips and back

(Just clarifying

)

squats/deadlifts and there variants mate.

Any lift that works the hips/back/thighs.

But i take squats and deads over any of the olympic lifts any day.

bulldozer · 12-09-2007, 12:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Bodyworks

next arm workout use half the weight and rep slowly. very slowly. your arms will be killing you afterwards.

Spot on!!

Arthur Jones used to say if you have never been sick after a set of curls then you aint doing them right . I think thats a bit OTT personally but hey ho..

Use a lighter weight and a much slower rep speed, take 10 seconds to complete one whole rep. 4/2/4 . Do the set to COMPLETE failure, dont stop when it hurts!! I promise you that you wont wanna do endless sets if you do it right.

Be different, curl the weight with your bicep lol, cos hardly anybody does

**Tall** · 12-09-2007, 12:12 PM

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Originally Posted by bulldozer

Be different, curl the weight with your bicep lol, cos hardly anybody does

I have, in the past, been guilty of curling the weight with my toes...

**Bodyworks** · 12-09-2007, 02:25 PM

a very simple test to judge honestly if you cheat on any given movement is:

at ANY point in the movement, you should be able to stop and hold the weight dead still ( not just at the midpoint or start but anywhere in the movement). this is because your static strength is greater than your positive strength (negative strength is even greater). if you are unable to hold the weight dead still mid-movement, then you are using momentum and leverage to get the weight to the midpoint rather than just using your target muscles.

try it next time you're arm curling and i bet you are able to do half the weight you think you can.

Young Gun · 12-09-2007, 04:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Bodyworks

a very simple test to judge honestly if you cheat on any given movement is:

at ANY point in the movement, you should be able to stop and hold the weight dead still ( not just at the midpoint or start but anywhere in the movement). this is because your static strength is greater than your positive strength (negative strength is even greater). if you are unable to hold the weight dead still mid-movement, then you are using momentum and leverage to get the weight to the midpoint rather than just using your target muscles.

try it next time you're arm curling and i bet you are able to do half the weight you think you can.

Thats really interesting. I'll definately try that although I do curl really really strictly or at least I thought I did so I'll see later

splinter · 12-09-2007, 05:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bodyworks

a very simple test to judge honestly if you cheat on any given movement is:

at ANY point in the movement, you should be able to stop and hold the weight dead still ( not just at the midpoint or start but anywhere in the movement). this is because your static strength is greater than your positive strength (negative strength is even greater). if you are unable to hold the weight dead still mid-movement, then you are using momentum and leverage to get the weight to the midpoint rather than just using your target muscles.

try it next time you're arm curling and i bet you are able to do half the weight you think you can.

yeah real interesting that! will defs try that myself!!!!

mrhulahoop · 12-09-2007, 07:01 PM

I agree that doing very slow reps is a great way to increase intensity, and I do it with almost all my excersises. It is safe as well. I also think spot growth is possible, but doing squats and deads stimulates overall growth in your body in my opinion...but I'm not a sports scientist, its only an opinion based on what I read.

12-09-2007, 11:50 AM	#11 (permalink)
bulldozer Making Progress Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Kent Posts: 498 Rep Power:	Re: Exercises for 'The Guns' If you dont work your hips/legs and back. i.e squats/ deadlifts and all varients of those your NOT going to reach your growth potential in your upper body. FACT!! ______________________ Opinions are like as*holes.......Everybody has one

12-09-2007, 11:53 AM	#12 (permalink)
Bodyworks Moderator Musclechat Icon Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: west yorkshire Posts: 1,023 Rep Power:	Re: Exercises for 'The Guns' next arm workout use half the weight and rep slowly. very slowly. your arms will be killing you afterwards. ______________________ my missus www.rachael-grice.co.uk

12-09-2007, 02:25 PM	#17 (permalink)
Bodyworks Moderator Musclechat Icon Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: west yorkshire Posts: 1,023 Rep Power:	Re: Exercises for 'The Guns' a very simple test to judge honestly if you cheat on any given movement is: at ANY point in the movement, you should be able to stop and hold the weight dead still ( not just at the midpoint or start but anywhere in the movement). this is because your static strength is greater than your positive strength (negative strength is even greater). if you are unable to hold the weight dead still mid-movement, then you are using momentum and leverage to get the weight to the midpoint rather than just using your target muscles. try it next time you're arm curling and i bet you are able to do half the weight you think you can. ______________________ my missus www.rachael-grice.co.uk

12-09-2007, 07:01 PM	#20 (permalink)
mrhulahoop Making Progress Join Date: Oct 2006 Posts: 365 Rep Power:	Re: Exercises for 'The Guns' I agree that doing very slow reps is a great way to increase intensity, and I do it with almost all my excersises. It is safe as well. I also think spot growth is possible, but doing squats and deads stimulates overall growth in your body in my opinion...but I'm not a sports scientist, its only an opinion based on what I read. ______________________ http://WWW.HulahoopsAreAQualityCompleteProteinSource.Com Last edited by mrhulahoop; 12-09-2007 at 07:04 PM.

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