Help! i sholuder press more than i bench

rgugliel · 25-05-2006, 12:23 AM

Yes that's right im shoulder pressing more than I bench, How can I change this, iv tried forced reps, super setting, drop setting, negatives. What am I doing wrong? my squat, deadlift, barbell curl and most others are quite good but my bench both flat and incline are depressing, any tips?

Nick500 · 25-05-2006, 12:31 AM

What are your current lifts for these exercises (i'm assuming they are substantial weights because you are doing steroids or going to do them....)

rgugliel · 25-05-2006, 01:00 AM

im looking at doing them to try nd fix my problem, im shoulder pressing 75kg, squating 150kg, deadlifting 140kg, barbell curl 50kg but the horrible truth is im benching 70kg. im 25 and 95 kg

Nick500 · 25-05-2006, 03:16 AM

No disrespect, but it sounds like you have a hell of a long way to go in terms of natural growth before you should be delving into steroids.

just my 2cents...

Dinosaur · 25-05-2006, 09:24 AM

best i can tell you is, concentrate on doing 1 to 3 reps for your chest and do around 6 sets max, 4 sets on bench press and 2 sets on incline. thats it do this for 3 weeks, then when you go back to 8 rps per set your should of by now increased your lifts, cant see why not. remeber most of it is in your head, and the best way to get over that is to lower the rep range and lift heavier this gives you a good feeling as you are now lifting heavy, more than you imagined, so as you can see it has a possitive effect, then when you go back to 8 rps, in your mind you now you can lift the weight and all you got to do is take a little weight off and bang 8 rps maximum lift will come.

Dino

wigz · 25-05-2006, 04:17 PM

jesus!! they are some weird lifts mate!!! whats your training split.. what body part are you training the day before chest?

rgugliel · 25-05-2006, 08:59 PM

i do back & traps, shoulders, abb's & calves, legs & biceps, chest and triceps, its odd all right, on leg day people in the gym say fair play and they laugh when they see me benching

Fiba · 27-05-2006, 03:58 PM

Do you use a free weight or do you use a smith machine . I would try and use the smith machine so you dont have to concentrate on balancing the bar and can focus your attention on getting perfect form .

Fiba

wigz · 27-05-2006, 06:23 PM

do you have a rest day before you train chest? might be worth considering.

Young Gun · 27-05-2006, 07:18 PM

thats actually a very good point whats your trainingt split. (waits for the I do shoulders and triceps on Monday chest on Tuesday response

)

Although I'm not sure it would have that significant an effect

25-05-2006, 12:23 AM	#1 (permalink)
rgugliel Under Construction Join Date: May 2006 Location: Dublin Posts: 24 Rep Power:	Help! i sholuder press more than i bench Yes that's right im shoulder pressing more than I bench, How can I change this, iv tried forced reps, super setting, drop setting, negatives. What am I doing wrong? my squat, deadlift, barbell curl and most others are quite good but my bench both flat and incline are depressing, any tips?

25-05-2006, 12:31 AM	#2 (permalink)
Nick500 Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Bristol Posts: 3,227 Rep Power:	What are your current lifts for these exercises (i'm assuming they are substantial weights because you are doing steroids or going to do them....) ______________________ - Obsession is what lazy people call dedication -

25-05-2006, 03:16 AM	#4 (permalink)
Nick500 Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Bristol Posts: 3,227 Rep Power:	No disrespect, but it sounds like you have a hell of a long way to go in terms of natural growth before you should be delving into steroids. just my 2cents... ______________________ - Obsession is what lazy people call dedication -

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Fiba Making Progress Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Scotland Posts: 118 Rep Power:	Do you use a free weight or do you use a smith machine . I would try and use the smith machine so you dont have to concentrate on balancing the bar and can focus your attention on getting perfect form . Fiba ______________________ If your gonna do something ,do it right

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25-05-2006, 01:00 AM	#3 (permalink)
rgugliel Under Construction Join Date: May 2006 Location: Dublin Posts: 24 Rep Power:	im looking at doing them to try nd fix my problem, im shoulder pressing 75kg, squating 150kg, deadlifting 140kg, barbell curl 50kg but the horrible truth is im benching 70kg. im 25 and 95 kg

25-05-2006, 09:24 AM	#5 (permalink)
Dinosaur Join Date: May 2006 Posts: 62 Rep Power:	best i can tell you is, concentrate on doing 1 to 3 reps for your chest and do around 6 sets max, 4 sets on bench press and 2 sets on incline. thats it do this for 3 weeks, then when you go back to 8 rps per set your should of by now increased your lifts, cant see why not. remeber most of it is in your head, and the best way to get over that is to lower the rep range and lift heavier this gives you a good feeling as you are now lifting heavy, more than you imagined, so as you can see it has a possitive effect, then when you go back to 8 rps, in your mind you now you can lift the weight and all you got to do is take a little weight off and bang 8 rps maximum lift will come. Dino

25-05-2006, 04:17 PM	#6 (permalink)
wigz Making Progress Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Manchester Posts: 430 Rep Power:	jesus!! they are some weird lifts mate!!! whats your training split.. what body part are you training the day before chest?

25-05-2006, 08:59 PM	#7 (permalink)
rgugliel Under Construction Join Date: May 2006 Location: Dublin Posts: 24 Rep Power:	i do back & traps, shoulders, abb's & calves, legs & biceps, chest and triceps, its odd all right, on leg day people in the gym say fair play and they laugh when they see me benching

27-05-2006, 06:23 PM	#9 (permalink)
wigz Making Progress Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Manchester Posts: 430 Rep Power:	do you have a rest day before you train chest? might be worth considering.

27-05-2006, 07:18 PM	#10 (permalink)
Young Gun Illuminati Join Date: Apr 2005 Posts: 1,539 Rep Power:	thats actually a very good point whats your trainingt split. (waits for the I do shoulders and triceps on Monday chest on Tuesday response ) Although I'm not sure it would have that significant an effect