Im ****in lost guys

redleg09 · 17-02-2006, 04:30 AM

hey yall , i dont know wut the **** to do, Im 19 im about 6'6 226lbs, so im not a real skinny guy im also not realy big, i starting workin out about 2 years ago really seriosly, and I grew, and then i platued, then i took sd, i gained about 40lbs, and kept about 20 of it, I have platued once again, and ive been at the same weight and measurment for about 2 months now, my diet is extremely healthy, hardboiled eggs turkey oats, along with 3, 40 gram shakes a day , Ive tried everything from changing my workouts to changing the frequecy in reps and wieght. i need some serious help.

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devilsquest · 17-02-2006, 07:27 AM

well first of we really need to see your full diet m8,and alo it may help ppl if we have your currant routine as well,most times its down to diet,so if we get that we can see if its the caurse,and dam i thought i was a tall sod

Stu21Ldn · 17-02-2006, 10:50 AM

unfortunately that what happens when you use anabolics too early, you reduce your ability to gain naturally.

How many calories a day are you getting?

crazycal1 · 17-02-2006, 01:18 PM

cut back to 90%-ish of your top working weight-depending on the exercise start adding 1-5lbs a week to the bar till youve reached your old maximum-cos the increments are small-you body is able to adapt-IF you are fully recovered you can continue past your sticking point and if necessary use even smaller increments-at the mo i`m training 3 x every 2 weeks-crazy stuff

SoulCard · 17-02-2006, 02:13 PM

its also possible that you are over training or something similar...what is your workout schedule including days on/off, exercises, sets, reps, etc?...

redleg09 · 18-02-2006, 04:31 AM

allright well my routine is pretty basic to anybody who is training seriously,
wake up; 40g protien
hour later; 3 hard boiled eggs, 2 pieces of wheat toast
3 hours later ; 40 g of protien
3 hours later ; 4 hard boiled eggs, bowl of oatmeal or grits
3 hrs later; workout 2 hours, 3 days on 1 day off
immediatley after workout; alot of turkey or chicken, wutever they have in the chowhall
right before bed; 40 g of protien
i work out for about an hour and a half to 3 hours, in a 3 day on 1 day off cycle, 2 body parts a day, chest-tris, back- biceps-, legs-delts, but i change it up about every 2 months. i cycle creatine every 4 weeks , but after the superdrol im trying to go as clean as possible. what am i doing wrong

crazycal1 · 18-02-2006, 02:58 PM

You could try training 3 x week-
3 days on 1 off is overtraining for most unless using.
Looks like you could be eating more carbs too-especially first thing. :idea:

SoulCard · 18-02-2006, 05:29 PM

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Originally Posted by redleg09

allright well my routine is pretty basic to anybody who is training seriously,
wake up; 40g protien
hour later; 3 hard boiled eggs, 2 pieces of wheat toast
3 hours later ; 40 g of protien
3 hours later ; 4 hard boiled eggs, bowl of oatmeal or grits
3 hrs later; workout 2 hours, 3 days on 1 day off
immediatley after workout; alot of turkey or chicken, wutever they have in the chowhall
right before bed; 40 g of protien
i work out for about an hour and a half to 3 hours, in a 3 day on 1 day off cycle, 2 body parts a day, chest-tris, back- biceps-, legs-delts, but i change it up about every 2 months. i cycle creatine every 4 weeks , but after the superdrol im trying to go as clean as possible. what am i doing wrong

first, you don't have to cycle the creatine, you can just stay on it, second: it looks like a decent diet, however you do seem a little low on carbs, keeping in mind the bulk of your carbs should be Pre and post workout...also you may be low on fat in your diet, kinda hard to tell...third, two hours a one time is WAY to long to be in the gym, your workout should be MAX 90 min, but 45-60 is better IMO...if you are woking out two hours a day no a 3/1 day split, you are not giving your body enough time to heal and recover which will limit your growth...it sounds paradoxical, but remember that growth happens during rest, not activity...lifting is the action that breaks down your muscles, rest is what allows them to recover and grow...remember for bulking you want your nutrients to be protien/fat/carbs in a 40/20/40 ratio...my other thought is that you are working each body part with too many exercises and sets...remember the small body parts (ex. bi's and tri's) should really need no more than 6-8 work sets, especially when combined with a large muscle group that overlaps the small one (like chest day)...gimme a look at your specific routine, that might help...

Comando Tom · 18-02-2006, 10:29 PM

40lbs from superdrol? You having a laugh mate.

Put some oats in your protein shakes to help up the carb intake, also add some fish oil caps to up your good fat uptake.

Good routine would be 3 or 4 day split, like mon wed fri or mon tue thu fri. Train a body part once a week and keep the training session to a hour, before the coristol kicks in and ruins your body.

SoulCard · 18-02-2006, 10:54 PM

one of the hardest realizations of bodybuilding is that working the muscle harder but less often is actually better sometimes...

17-02-2006, 04:30 AM	#1 (permalink)
redleg09 Under Construction Join Date: Nov 2005 Posts: 10 Rep Power:	Im in lost guys hey yall , i dont know wut the **** to do, Im 19 im about 6'6 226lbs, so im not a real skinny guy im also not realy big, i starting workin out about 2 years ago really seriosly, and I grew, and then i platued, then i took sd, i gained about 40lbs, and kept about 20 of it, I have platued once again, and ive been at the same weight and measurment for about 2 months now, my diet is extremely healthy, hardboiled eggs turkey oats, along with 3, 40 gram shakes a day , Ive tried everything from changing my workouts to changing the frequecy in reps and wieght. i need some serious help. ops:

17-02-2006, 02:13 PM	#5 (permalink)
SoulCard Legend Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: USA Posts: 818 Rep Power:	its also possible that you are over training or something similar...what is your workout schedule including days on/off, exercises, sets, reps, etc?... ______________________ Look Here before you ask!... http://www.musclechat.co.uk/search.php Steroid Sticky Here... http://musclechat.co.uk/viewtopic.php?t=4464

18-02-2006, 04:31 AM	#6 (permalink)
redleg09 Under Construction Join Date: Nov 2005 Posts: 10 Rep Power:	my routine allright well my routine is pretty basic to anybody who is training seriously, wake up; 40g protien hour later; 3 hard boiled eggs, 2 pieces of wheat toast 3 hours later ; 40 g of protien 3 hours later ; 4 hard boiled eggs, bowl of oatmeal or grits 3 hrs later; workout 2 hours, 3 days on 1 day off immediatley after workout; alot of turkey or chicken, wutever they have in the chowhall right before bed; 40 g of protien i work out for about an hour and a half to 3 hours, in a 3 day on 1 day off cycle, 2 body parts a day, chest-tris, back- biceps-, legs-delts, but i change it up about every 2 months. i cycle creatine every 4 weeks , but after the superdrol im trying to go as clean as possible. what am i doing wrong

18-02-2006, 10:54 PM	#10 (permalink)
SoulCard Legend Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: USA Posts: 818 Rep Power:	one of the hardest realizations of bodybuilding is that working the muscle harder but less often is actually better sometimes... ______________________ Look Here before you ask!... http://www.musclechat.co.uk/search.php Steroid Sticky Here... http://musclechat.co.uk/viewtopic.php?t=4464

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17-02-2006, 07:27 AM	#2 (permalink)
devilsquest Banned Join Date: Nov 2005 Posts: 1,161 Rep Power:	well first of we really need to see your full diet m8,and alo it may help ppl if we have your currant routine as well,most times its down to diet,so if we get that we can see if its the caurse,and dam i thought i was a tall sod

17-02-2006, 10:50 AM	#3 (permalink)
Stu21Ldn Join Date: Mar 2005 Posts: 721 Rep Power:	unfortunately that what happens when you use anabolics too early, you reduce your ability to gain naturally. How many calories a day are you getting?

17-02-2006, 01:18 PM	#4 (permalink)
crazycal1 Illuminati Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Nowhere Posts: 3,033 Rep Power:	cut back to 90%-ish of your top working weight-depending on the exercise start adding 1-5lbs a week to the bar till youve reached your old maximum-cos the increments are small-you body is able to adapt-IF you are fully recovered you can continue past your sticking point and if necessary use even smaller increments-at the mo i`m training 3 x every 2 weeks-crazy stuff

18-02-2006, 02:58 PM	#7 (permalink)
crazycal1 Illuminati Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Nowhere Posts: 3,033 Rep Power:	You could try training 3 x week- 3 days on 1 off is overtraining for most unless using. Looks like you could be eating more carbs too-especially first thing. :idea:

18-02-2006, 10:29 PM	#9 (permalink)
Comando Tom Making Progress Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Bristol Posts: 595 Rep Power:	40lbs from superdrol? You having a laugh mate. Put some oats in your protein shakes to help up the carb intake, also add some fish oil caps to up your good fat uptake. Good routine would be 3 or 4 day split, like mon wed fri or mon tue thu fri. Train a body part once a week and keep the training session to a hour, before the coristol kicks in and ruins your body.