Cutting - hi-rep/low weight, or low-rep/high weight?

Keyser Soze · 18-01-2006, 11:22 PM

Hi guys,

I'm about 20-25%BF, need to get down to 15%, at which point I'll start bulking (yaay!!!!).

But...

When I start bulking, I'll want my gains as fast as possible. That means lifting heavy weights, 4-6 reps, and a 7th is unlikely.

Now, are my gains going to be faster if I start lifting heavy NOW, going to failure on the final set, while still cutting, or should I continue the hi-rep work, never going to failure for the duration of the cut?

I don't think either will make a difference to dropping lard, the fat'll come off all the same, but I think it'll make a a big difference to my bulking speed.

Thanks in advance,

KS.

Andy1981iron · 18-01-2006, 11:25 PM

Your diet determines the outcome of your cutting aspirations my freind.

Keyser Soze · 18-01-2006, 11:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by andy1981iron

Your diet determines the outcome of your cutting aspirations my freind.

I realise that, but...I was asking about bulking, and how I should train while cutting to optimise the bulking phase.

Appreciate the reply, mind.

KS

Andy1981iron · 18-01-2006, 11:43 PM

In that case I would say stick to the lower rep stuff to try and keep your strength up.

FAT BOY · 19-01-2006, 09:05 AM

personaly i think the 4 to 6 rep range is a little low either way.
unless your power lifting.

i would shoot for eight to ten reps maybe as low as 6 on lifts like squat bench and dead lift. < less chance of injury to>

you need to try and maintain your poundages the best you can when cutting as this will keep your size

i would agree that fat loss is realy down to diet and cardio

crazycal1 · 19-01-2006, 01:22 PM

ks-you doin cardio as well ?

Young Gun · 19-01-2006, 04:43 PM

Good post fat boy

Keyser Soze · 19-01-2006, 05:20 PM

Cal - yeah, I do cardio twice weekly, plus an evening walk every night, but I'm still trying to work out whether I should be bending my knees ass-to-heels on my rower, or just pivoting at the hip...

No, really, I haven't decided!! Knee bending seems hard on the hip-muscle connectors, though...

Well, the predominant school of thought here (and elsewhere) seems to be "lift heavy, lift 8 reps, watch the calories, and do your cardio!"....

...so I will!!!

Many thanks all,

KS

18-01-2006, 11:22 PM	#1 (permalink)
Keyser Soze Under Construction Join Date: Dec 2005 Posts: 21 Rep Power:	Cutting - hi-rep/low weight, or low-rep/high weight? Hi guys, I'm about 20-25%BF, need to get down to 15%, at which point I'll start bulking (yaay!!!!). But... When I start bulking, I'll want my gains as fast as possible. That means lifting heavy weights, 4-6 reps, and a 7th is unlikely. Now, are my gains going to be faster if I start lifting heavy NOW, going to failure on the final set, while still cutting, or should I continue the hi-rep work, never going to failure for the duration of the cut? I don't think either will make a difference to dropping lard, the fat'll come off all the same, but I think it'll make a a big difference to my bulking speed. Thanks in advance, KS.

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18-01-2006, 11:25 PM	#2 (permalink)
Andy1981iron Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Hull Posts: 833 Rep Power:	Your diet determines the outcome of your cutting aspirations my freind.

18-01-2006, 11:43 PM	#4 (permalink)
Andy1981iron Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Hull Posts: 833 Rep Power:	In that case I would say stick to the lower rep stuff to try and keep your strength up.

19-01-2006, 09:05 AM	#5 (permalink)
FAT BOY Legend Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: UK Posts: 836 Rep Power:	personaly i think the 4 to 6 rep range is a little low either way. unless your power lifting. i would shoot for eight to ten reps maybe as low as 6 on lifts like squat bench and dead lift. < less chance of injury to> you need to try and maintain your poundages the best you can when cutting as this will keep your size i would agree that fat loss is realy down to diet and cardio

19-01-2006, 01:22 PM	#6 (permalink)
crazycal1 Illuminati Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Nowhere Posts: 2,863 Rep Power:	ks-you doin cardio as well ?

19-01-2006, 04:43 PM	#7 (permalink)
Young Gun Illuminati Join Date: Apr 2005 Posts: 1,539 Rep Power:	Good post fat boy

19-01-2006, 05:20 PM	#8 (permalink)
Keyser Soze Under Construction Join Date: Dec 2005 Posts: 21 Rep Power:	Cal - yeah, I do cardio twice weekly, plus an evening walk every night, but I'm still trying to work out whether I should be bending my knees ass-to-heels on my rower, or just pivoting at the hip... No, really, I haven't decided!! Knee bending seems hard on the hip-muscle connectors, though... Well, the predominant school of thought here (and elsewhere) seems to be "lift heavy, lift 8 reps, watch the calories, and do your cardio!".... ...so I will!!! Many thanks all, KS