Am I overtraining?

razg · 14-09-2005, 04:46 PM

For the 2nd time in about 6 weeks, I am feeling like i have a cold - sore throat, blocked up nose, generally lethargic etc.

I've been training particularly hard, with 1 HIIT (morning) and 1 weights session (evening) per day for 5 days a week.

It seems to me like a classic symptom of overtraining, but i'd value others opinions on this.

Thanks,

Raz

Nick500 · 15-09-2005, 12:21 AM

in my opinion its not overtraining raz, its just that you are asking lots of your body and your more vulnerable to infections such as the common cold. you are subjecting your body to extreme changes in heat, heart rate, blood pressure, and also doing a lot of mental (computer) work in the day, so imo its just that you are worn down from training both mentally and physically.

i think you should continue through the pain/illness, but wrap up warmly if its chilly for your runs outside, or confine your cardio to gym only.

Nick

wigz · 15-09-2005, 11:52 AM

sometimes i think you need to listen to your body and rest, last year i trained no matter how i felt but i started 2 get really tired and run down most worrying started to loose my sex drive! im spending less time in the gym now and making much better gains, stiil training 5 or 6 times a week but shorter more intense sessions. my probem is training is addictive and i find it hard sometimes to rest even though i know thats what my body needs to grow.

sitries · 15-09-2005, 05:57 PM

thats blatently overtraining! five days a week working out twice a day. your body needs a break. rest is a vital factor in weight training - im sure you know this. i used to have a similar routine about a year ago. i just stopped growing because i wasnt gettine enough rest. i rekon working out 3-4 times a week is best. more if your using gear.

crazycal1 · 15-09-2005, 10:55 PM

couldnt agree more with sitries-its holding youself back thats the hard thing-its easy to be the last person to realise that you`re overtraining-i used to do it regularly-dont batter your body grow it (i also think extended range of motion and failure is unecessary for natural trainers.

JackO24 · 16-09-2005, 12:04 AM

Yea i think your deff. overtraining. twice a day, 5 times a week is too much to handle. Not just mentally, phisically too. I find it hard to rest too.. i feel like im not doin as much as i should, but the rest is just as important as the work.

Comando Tom · 16-09-2005, 07:55 AM

Most people say they grow outside of the gym, not in the gym.

razg · 16-09-2005, 09:06 AM

True, but this is not a bulking phase, I am cutting at the moment - my 2x daily is purely to maximise metabolic effects.

Although on that note, I think i'll switch down to once a day for now.

crazycal1 · 16-09-2005, 01:20 PM

you`ve got to keep your body "anabolic" to maximise metabolic effects-if you really want to go on a cutting cycle(i think you should have had a couple of weeks of from bulking & then continued bulking-unless you have reached your ideal size)-what about circuit training or just cardio-i find as long as i keep my protein high,i dont lose much muscle-just fat.i am admittedly a skinny ****er to start with and i`m trying to bulk up -i train 2x a week with weights at the most and 3ish cardio sessions of walking like the terminator(i`m told)

check out my before & after pics at http://www.geocities.com/easternhass...agestars4.html

TheDaddy2003 · 19-09-2005, 01:10 AM

i no of this only to well, not being a consistant trainer for the last 6 years or more.
What usually happens is i have a good training program that lasts for about 8 months i break for 6 months, then come back to the gym thinking i can train for the long periods that i did 8 months ago.
The next couple of days i catch a cold and ache for about a week, in my opinion its defiently over training.
Id recomend rest up, overcome your cold then eat and sleep well when you continue to train.
The key element for you seems lack of recovery time, id suggest taking more rest time to let your body fully recuperate.

Didnt read your 2nd post, but am i right in thinking your training more and eating less?
Defiently over training if thats the case.

14-09-2005, 04:46 PM	#1 (permalink)
razg Legend Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Birmingham/Bristol Posts: 886 Rep Power:	Am I overtraining? For the 2nd time in about 6 weeks, I am feeling like i have a cold - sore throat, blocked up nose, generally lethargic etc. I've been training particularly hard, with 1 HIIT (morning) and 1 weights session (evening) per day for 5 days a week. It seems to me like a classic symptom of overtraining, but i'd value others opinions on this. Thanks, Raz

15-09-2005, 12:21 AM	#2 (permalink)
Nick500 Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Bristol Posts: 3,230 Rep Power:	in my opinion its not overtraining raz, its just that you are asking lots of your body and your more vulnerable to infections such as the common cold. you are subjecting your body to extreme changes in heat, heart rate, blood pressure, and also doing a lot of mental (computer) work in the day, so imo its just that you are worn down from training both mentally and physically. i think you should continue through the pain/illness, but wrap up warmly if its chilly for your runs outside, or confine your cardio to gym only. Nick ______________________ - Obsession is what lazy people call dedication -

15-09-2005, 10:55 PM	#5 (permalink)
crazycal1 Illuminati Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Nowhere Posts: 2,867 Rep Power:	couldnt agree more with sitries-its holding youself back thats the hard thing-its easy to be the last person to realise that you`re overtraining-i used to do it regularly-dont batter your body grow it (i also think extended range of motion and failure is unecessary for natural trainers. ______________________ einsteins mind was the key to all things...to understand more than to know. www.englishmuscle.co.uk www.extremenutrition.co.uk

16-09-2005, 01:20 PM	#9 (permalink)
crazycal1 Illuminati Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Nowhere Posts: 2,867 Rep Power:	you`ve got to keep your body "anabolic" to maximise metabolic effects-if you really want to go on a cutting cycle(i think you should have had a couple of weeks of from bulking & then continued bulking-unless you have reached your ideal size)-what about circuit training or just cardio-i find as long as i keep my protein high,i dont lose much muscle-just fat.i am admittedly a skinny ****er to start with and i`m trying to bulk up -i train 2x a week with weights at the most and 3ish cardio sessions of walking like the terminator(i`m told) check out my before & after pics at http://www.geocities.com/easternhass...agestars4.html ______________________ einsteins mind was the key to all things...to understand more than to know. www.englishmuscle.co.uk www.extremenutrition.co.uk

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15-09-2005, 11:52 AM	#3 (permalink)
wigz Making Progress Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Manchester Posts: 429 Rep Power:	sometimes i think you need to listen to your body and rest, last year i trained no matter how i felt but i started 2 get really tired and run down most worrying started to loose my sex drive! im spending less time in the gym now and making much better gains, stiil training 5 or 6 times a week but shorter more intense sessions. my probem is training is addictive and i find it hard sometimes to rest even though i know thats what my body needs to grow.

15-09-2005, 05:57 PM	#4 (permalink)
sitries Legend Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Essex Posts: 635 Rep Power:	thats blatently overtraining! five days a week working out twice a day. your body needs a break. rest is a vital factor in weight training - im sure you know this. i used to have a similar routine about a year ago. i just stopped growing because i wasnt gettine enough rest. i rekon working out 3-4 times a week is best. more if your using gear.

16-09-2005, 12:04 AM	#6 (permalink)
JackO24 Under Construction Join Date: Sep 2005 Posts: 4 Rep Power:	Yea i think your deff. overtraining. twice a day, 5 times a week is too much to handle. Not just mentally, phisically too. I find it hard to rest too.. i feel like im not doin as much as i should, but the rest is just as important as the work.

16-09-2005, 07:55 AM	#7 (permalink)
Comando Tom Making Progress Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Bristol Posts: 595 Rep Power:	Most people say they grow outside of the gym, not in the gym.

16-09-2005, 09:06 AM	#8 (permalink)
razg Legend Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Birmingham/Bristol Posts: 886 Rep Power:	True, but this is not a bulking phase, I am cutting at the moment - my 2x daily is purely to maximise metabolic effects. Although on that note, I think i'll switch down to once a day for now.

19-09-2005, 01:10 AM	#10 (permalink)
TheDaddy2003 Making Progress Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Wales Posts: 184 Rep Power:	i no of this only to well, not being a consistant trainer for the last 6 years or more. What usually happens is i have a good training program that lasts for about 8 months i break for 6 months, then come back to the gym thinking i can train for the long periods that i did 8 months ago. The next couple of days i catch a cold and ache for about a week, in my opinion its defiently over training. Id recomend rest up, overcome your cold then eat and sleep well when you continue to train. The key element for you seems lack of recovery time, id suggest taking more rest time to let your body fully recuperate. Didnt read your 2nd post, but am i right in thinking your training more and eating less? Defiently over training if thats the case.