Soreness the day after???

Fiba · 26-07-2005, 07:33 PM

Can anyone help with this?

Is muscle soreness/tenderness the day after training important for growth ?
All my muscles are tender after training Chest , tris ,Abs etc but i have never experiance sorness/tenderness in my side delts no matter how hard i train them.
Iv tried supersetting side laterals with upright wide grip rows , lying on a 45 degree bench doing 10 sets of 10 of lateral raises . Iv even tried 20 sets on the lateral machine and cables.

Dont know if this will help any but
Shoulder press bar --60kg
shoulder press machine ---50kg
bench press---- 100kg

The above are my lifts for 8 reps , might help give an idea of what level im at for any advice

thanks Fiba

razg · 26-07-2005, 07:51 PM

No it's not. Although soreness is an indication of a hard session, muscles which you regularly train in a specific way generally wont hurt. For example I rarely have any pain in my pecs regardless of how much chest work i do. If you really want to feel some pain, change up your routine - new exercises, different rep/set scehemes (such as negative sets, slow sets etc) and i'm sure you'll feel it.

Fiba · 26-07-2005, 09:34 PM

cheers buddy . Il lower the weights and take an extra 2-3 seconds a rep and see how that works

Fiba

divie · 27-07-2005, 12:04 PM

A good one for really gatting a good pump in your chest is on your last 2 sets of bench press bring the bar down slowly to your chest and hold it for 2 good seconds this should really stretch your pecs and on the push back up dont jerk it up like a power liftter again slowly push the bar up contracting your pecs.
Do this twice(2 sets) after a couple heavy sets on the bench.

divie · 27-07-2005, 12:15 PM

ps m8 also like raz said, vary your exercisses or routine a bit.Every now and again i will switch from my prefered full body workouts to a split for a month and you will definnatly feel sore when you change things around.
Also dont read to much into soreness as i dont get sore too much now or it could be we all get used to the aches and pains of body building, your body adapts especially if your consitent with your rotine and diet.Also strecting does prevent a lot of soreness and injurys and if your like me i never used to bother strecthing too much until i had a pain in my tricep while i was performing tri pushdowns and since ive been warming up well before and after traininng i aint felt a pain yet.

razg · 27-07-2005, 01:47 PM

Yep - I find a real killer is (strictly time this) 1 second up, 3 seconds down, and hold on your chest for 2 seconds. You'll have to decrease weight by a good 10kg I find, but it feels wicked afterwards.

reef · 27-07-2005, 02:04 PM

The soreness is known as Delayed Onset Muscle Soreness (DOMS) and usually occurs 24 hours or so after a workout session. It is not an indicator of a hard workout though, which is pretty obvious as you can get it running, cycling, swimming etc aswell, though these wont lead to muscle growth! It is thought to be caused by small microtears in the muscle tissue and generally becomes less as you get used to the exercises you are doing.

26-07-2005, 07:33 PM	#1 (permalink)
Fiba Making Progress Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Scotland Posts: 118 Rep Power:	Soreness the day after??? Can anyone help with this? Is muscle soreness/tenderness the day after training important for growth ? All my muscles are tender after training Chest , tris ,Abs etc but i have never experiance sorness/tenderness in my side delts no matter how hard i train them. Iv tried supersetting side laterals with upright wide grip rows , lying on a 45 degree bench doing 10 sets of 10 of lateral raises . Iv even tried 20 sets on the lateral machine and cables. Dont know if this will help any but Shoulder press bar --60kg shoulder press machine ---50kg bench press---- 100kg The above are my lifts for 8 reps , might help give an idea of what level im at for any advice thanks Fiba

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26-07-2005, 07:51 PM	#2 (permalink)
razg Legend Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Birmingham/Bristol Posts: 886 Rep Power:	No it's not. Although soreness is an indication of a hard session, muscles which you regularly train in a specific way generally wont hurt. For example I rarely have any pain in my pecs regardless of how much chest work i do. If you really want to feel some pain, change up your routine - new exercises, different rep/set scehemes (such as negative sets, slow sets etc) and i'm sure you'll feel it.

26-07-2005, 09:34 PM	#3 (permalink)
Fiba Making Progress Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Scotland Posts: 118 Rep Power:	cheers buddy . Il lower the weights and take an extra 2-3 seconds a rep and see how that works Fiba

27-07-2005, 12:04 PM	#4 (permalink)
divie Making Progress Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: somerset Posts: 436 Rep Power:	A good one for really gatting a good pump in your chest is on your last 2 sets of bench press bring the bar down slowly to your chest and hold it for 2 good seconds this should really stretch your pecs and on the push back up dont jerk it up like a power liftter again slowly push the bar up contracting your pecs. Do this twice(2 sets) after a couple heavy sets on the bench.

27-07-2005, 12:15 PM	#5 (permalink)
divie Making Progress Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: somerset Posts: 436 Rep Power:	ps m8 also like raz said, vary your exercisses or routine a bit.Every now and again i will switch from my prefered full body workouts to a split for a month and you will definnatly feel sore when you change things around. Also dont read to much into soreness as i dont get sore too much now or it could be we all get used to the aches and pains of body building, your body adapts especially if your consitent with your rotine and diet.Also strecting does prevent a lot of soreness and injurys and if your like me i never used to bother strecthing too much until i had a pain in my tricep while i was performing tri pushdowns and since ive been warming up well before and after traininng i aint felt a pain yet.

27-07-2005, 01:47 PM	#6 (permalink)
razg Legend Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Birmingham/Bristol Posts: 886 Rep Power:	Yep - I find a real killer is (strictly time this) 1 second up, 3 seconds down, and hold on your chest for 2 seconds. You'll have to decrease weight by a good 10kg I find, but it feels wicked afterwards.

27-07-2005, 02:04 PM	#7 (permalink)
reef Under Construction Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Yorkshire Posts: 95 Rep Power:	The soreness is known as Delayed Onset Muscle Soreness (DOMS) and usually occurs 24 hours or so after a workout session. It is not an indicator of a hard workout though, which is pretty obvious as you can get it running, cycling, swimming etc aswell, though these wont lead to muscle growth! It is thought to be caused by small microtears in the muscle tissue and generally becomes less as you get used to the exercises you are doing.