Sloppy reps

MrSkinny · 30-06-2005, 10:04 PM

We all know about good form when training but what do u guys think about doing reps a bit sloppy cos you are beginning to tire.

For example, when training the lats I aim for about 8-10 good reps but I can always manage to squeeze out 2 more half reps (i.e. until the bar is level with my face/forehead). Doesn't really apply to the bench press/flys etc but for the pulling type exercises its common with me (e.g seated rows/upright rows)

I reckon there is always benefit in pushing until your knackered but thats just me. I judge it by the fact that my muscles are sore.

Any thoughts :?

30-06-2005, 10:10 PM

What about increasing the weight?
I know everyone has a different approach on their routines / methods but I go for maximum weight and aim for a failure in 6-8 reps, then lower weight and do the same again. Everyone responds differently but I do well with this method and very rarely go over 9 reps except for leg work.

zx9rjas. · 30-06-2005, 10:12 PM

These are called partial reps and I sometimes, o.k. usually use them in my routines. I even do them with dumbell movements such as dumbell shoulder presses and dumbell bench presses, also on squats

I have found that on seated cable rows they really work well too.

J

MrSkinny · 30-06-2005, 10:16 PM

Yeah stumpy I do mix my routines like that some times by including drop sets.

But for a straight set, I aim for say 8 proper reps. I will have failed at this point. The 9th will be failing and won't get the bar down as far. Same with the 10th. I don't actually count these as reps, more as a little extra punishment

I have read that you can do this with calves whereby you keep pushing until you are hardly moving at all, Never tried it though

J, I just feel like I have a bit more in me if you know what I mean so try to push a little harder

Cheers

30-06-2005, 10:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MrSkinny

I don't actually count these as reps, more as a little extra punishment

There are clubs and web sites for people like you!

zx9rjas. · 30-06-2005, 10:26 PM

I know whet you mean as I do the same MrS, I dont count them as reps really when I'm doing them and just work the muscle to total failure and ENJOY THE PAIN!!! I only usually do it on the last rep of the last set of each exercise though to make sure I've fully exhausted the muscle for that exercise

J

MrSkinny · 30-06-2005, 10:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by stumpy

There are clubs and web sites for people like you!

Maybe I'll set one up.

Thats why I like a 4 day split cos I remind myself that it will another week until I am hitting that muscle again so tell myself to stop being a sissy and just get on with it :shock:

I wish I could put that philosophy into my job though. Last in-first out is my motto 8) 8)

garrilla · 02-07-2005, 10:45 AM

i agree with jason i use them on the last heavy set of an exercise to push the muscle as close to failiure as is possible, if you have a training partner negatives work well to.

30-06-2005, 10:04 PM	#1 (permalink)
MrSkinny Making Progress Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: London Posts: 255 Rep Power:	Sloppy reps We all know about good form when training but what do u guys think about doing reps a bit sloppy cos you are beginning to tire. For example, when training the lats I aim for about 8-10 good reps but I can always manage to squeeze out 2 more half reps (i.e. until the bar is level with my face/forehead). Doesn't really apply to the bench press/flys etc but for the pulling type exercises its common with me (e.g seated rows/upright rows) I reckon there is always benefit in pushing until your knackered but thats just me. I judge it by the fact that my muscles are sore. Any thoughts :?

30-06-2005, 10:12 PM	#3 (permalink)
zx9rjas. Legend Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Southampton Posts: 697 Rep Power:	These are called partial reps and I sometimes, o.k. usually use them in my routines. I even do them with dumbell movements such as dumbell shoulder presses and dumbell bench presses, also on squats I have found that on seated cable rows they really work well too. J ______________________ 50% of Training is nutrition 50% of Training is not overtraining If you cant gain see the above.

30-06-2005, 10:26 PM	#6 (permalink)
zx9rjas. Legend Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Southampton Posts: 697 Rep Power:	I know whet you mean as I do the same MrS, I dont count them as reps really when I'm doing them and just work the muscle to total failure and ENJOY THE PAIN!!! I only usually do it on the last rep of the last set of each exercise though to make sure I've fully exhausted the muscle for that exercise J ______________________ 50% of Training is nutrition 50% of Training is not overtraining If you cant gain see the above.

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30-06-2005, 10:10 PM	#2 (permalink)
Guest Posts: n/a	What about increasing the weight? I know everyone has a different approach on their routines / methods but I go for maximum weight and aim for a failure in 6-8 reps, then lower weight and do the same again. Everyone responds differently but I do well with this method and very rarely go over 9 reps except for leg work.

30-06-2005, 10:16 PM	#4 (permalink)
MrSkinny Making Progress Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: London Posts: 255 Rep Power:	Yeah stumpy I do mix my routines like that some times by including drop sets. But for a straight set, I aim for say 8 proper reps. I will have failed at this point. The 9th will be failing and won't get the bar down as far. Same with the 10th. I don't actually count these as reps, more as a little extra punishment I have read that you can do this with calves whereby you keep pushing until you are hardly moving at all, Never tried it though J, I just feel like I have a bit more in me if you know what I mean so try to push a little harder Cheers

02-07-2005, 10:45 AM	#8 (permalink)
garrilla Banned Making Progress Join Date: Mar 2005 Posts: 431 Rep Power:	i agree with jason i use them on the last heavy set of an exercise to push the muscle as close to failiure as is possible, if you have a training partner negatives work well to.