shoulders r shot !!!

gc · 01-06-2005, 10:23 AM

alright lads, my friend n trainin partner is havin severe shoulder problems in what he thinks is his joint. it varies in severity to the point where its causin sleepless nights. stranglely tho shoulder pressin exercises r ok however flat benchin is especially painful. lat raises, up right rowin n bb curlin r a problem 2. he got some relief from a short corse of deca but hes reluctant to become reliant on it to train. any thoughts, similar experiences and or advice would be appreciated,
cheers,
gc

Stu21Ldn · 01-06-2005, 11:36 AM

Upright rows are a terrible exercise i don't even know why people do them, they are not a natural movement and place way to much pressure on your rotator cuffs. There so many better movements than this i don't know why people still persist with this dinosaur exercise.

He need to go see a physio

madmonkey292 · 01-06-2005, 11:59 AM

i had a simular problem and still suffer when i do flat bench press's with a bar, i damaged my shoulder playing rugby and have the same problems as your mate. To get around this i use dumbells for all chest exercises and just do incline press and flys etc and try not to do anything flat or with a bar yet i can do all my shoulder exercises without any problems.
Rest did not work so i just found exercise's that did not affect me and stuck to them and it does almost clear up.

MrSkinny · 01-06-2005, 01:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Stu21Ldn

Upright rows are a terrible exercise i don't even know why people do them, they are not a natural movement and place way to much pressure on your rotator cuffs. There so many better movements

What else do you recommend rather than upright rows Stu. I had a shoulder problem years ago but I used to do presses behind the neck then. No probs with up-right rows though

divie · 01-06-2005, 07:53 PM

Right so stu has said upright rows are shit, but he hasn't explained why or given you an altrnative, thats helpful isnt it, what a suprise!.

shoulder presses infront and behind neck work well for me you say theese dont cause discomfort so just stick to theese they are good exercisses if form is good.

garrilla · 06-06-2005, 03:04 PM

i gotta agree with stu on the upright rows, terrible exercise they put to much strain on the joints if you insist on doing them never use a straight bar, as i've said before shoulder presses are the way to go.

i also suffer with shoulder pains when benching but shoulder exercises are no problem my pain is caused by the tendon at the top of the bicep and it would be really painfull through the night as when you sleep you dontmove so the tendon would "freeze" in position. go see your doc he gave me an injection into each shoulder it hurts mind as he has to touch the tendon with theend of the needle to know he's in the right spot (i nearly knocked the nurse out when he hit mine OOOUCH) BUT I'VE BEEN MUCH BETTER SINCE.

MrSkinny · 06-06-2005, 05:05 PM

Gary,
can you give us the link for the shoulder routine you posted before. I can't remember where it is.

I must admit that I have done upright rows for years and never have a problem with them. I quite like them cos you take tris out of the equation but if they are that bad a guess a change is needed.

cheers dude

John

garrilla · 06-06-2005, 06:21 PM

heres the routine i posted hope this link works i'm shit at this kind of stuff lol.

http://www.musclechat.co.uk/viewtopic.php?t=2071

its part of the intermediate routine.

01-06-2005, 10:23 AM	#1 (permalink)
gc Under Construction Join Date: May 2005 Location: doncaster Posts: 23 Rep Power:	shoulders r shot !!! alright lads, my friend n trainin partner is havin severe shoulder problems in what he thinks is his joint. it varies in severity to the point where its causin sleepless nights. stranglely tho shoulder pressin exercises r ok however flat benchin is especially painful. lat raises, up right rowin n bb curlin r a problem 2. he got some relief from a short corse of deca but hes reluctant to become reliant on it to train. any thoughts, similar experiences and or advice would be appreciated, cheers, gc

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madmonkey292 Making Progress Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: northwest Posts: 191 Rep Power:	i had a simular problem and still suffer when i do flat bench press's with a bar, i damaged my shoulder playing rugby and have the same problems as your mate. To get around this i use dumbells for all chest exercises and just do incline press and flys etc and try not to do anything flat or with a bar yet i can do all my shoulder exercises without any problems. Rest did not work so i just found exercise's that did not affect me and stuck to them and it does almost clear up. ______________________ www.eph25plus.co.uk

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01-06-2005, 11:36 AM	#2 (permalink)
Stu21Ldn Join Date: Mar 2005 Posts: 721 Rep Power:	Upright rows are a terrible exercise i don't even know why people do them, they are not a natural movement and place way to much pressure on your rotator cuffs. There so many better movements than this i don't know why people still persist with this dinosaur exercise. He need to go see a physio

01-06-2005, 07:53 PM	#5 (permalink)
divie Making Progress Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: somerset Posts: 436 Rep Power:	Right so stu has said upright rows are shit, but he hasn't explained why or given you an altrnative, thats helpful isnt it, what a suprise!. shoulder presses infront and behind neck work well for me you say theese dont cause discomfort so just stick to theese they are good exercisses if form is good.

06-06-2005, 03:04 PM	#6 (permalink)
garrilla Banned Making Progress Join Date: Mar 2005 Posts: 431 Rep Power:	i gotta agree with stu on the upright rows, terrible exercise they put to much strain on the joints if you insist on doing them never use a straight bar, as i've said before shoulder presses are the way to go. i also suffer with shoulder pains when benching but shoulder exercises are no problem my pain is caused by the tendon at the top of the bicep and it would be really painfull through the night as when you sleep you dontmove so the tendon would "freeze" in position. go see your doc he gave me an injection into each shoulder it hurts mind as he has to touch the tendon with theend of the needle to know he's in the right spot (i nearly knocked the nurse out when he hit mine OOOUCH) BUT I'VE BEEN MUCH BETTER SINCE.

06-06-2005, 05:05 PM	#7 (permalink)
MrSkinny Making Progress Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: London Posts: 255 Rep Power:	Gary, can you give us the link for the shoulder routine you posted before. I can't remember where it is. I must admit that I have done upright rows for years and never have a problem with them. I quite like them cos you take tris out of the equation but if they are that bad a guess a change is needed. cheers dude John

06-06-2005, 06:21 PM	#8 (permalink)
garrilla Banned Making Progress Join Date: Mar 2005 Posts: 431 Rep Power:	heres the routine i posted hope this link works i'm shit at this kind of stuff lol. http://www.musclechat.co.uk/viewtopic.php?t=2071 its part of the intermediate routine.