Anyone else have days like this in the Gym?

Deadpool · 10-05-2005, 09:41 PM

I came off a Creatine cycle a little over a week ago and I've lost about 3lbs I expected to drop some water weight so this didn't bother me, and my lifts have continued to increase so over all I was still happy.

Today I hit the gym and I felt ok till I started lifting, today was a chest and triceps day and as I have mentioned me and my TP split chest into flat one week, decline the next and incline the week after that and then switch back.

So its a flat day which to be honest is my favourite of the three, we can't get a bench so we hit the smith machine, I start warming up with 20 reps at 170lbs and by the 14th rep I'm feeling tired and the weights feeling more like theres 3 45's a side on there!

Last time I was on the smith machine on a flat I had 280lbs for 8 and I really wanted 300lbs for 6 as I know I've got stronger since then.

So I come off the warm up set and I feel really flat and tired, but try to shake it off and go for 260lbs for 12 I had to rack it back after 3 reps as it just wasn't feeling right, it was like my arms were lead weights.

Now me being me I get really frustrated and refuse to let my TP take some weight off, ad go under again this time I grind out 12 reps but I do me grind! my form was ****ing awful!

Still I won't be beaten and we go up to 290lbs my TP hits 10 on his set and I really really want 10 to!

I go under the bar unhook it and same thing I squeeze 3 reps out then rack it, I get up kick the bench throw my water bottle across the floor and shout so loud the whole gym stops.

I refuse again to let him take some weight off and I go under again and manage to squeeze out 10 reps, slightly better form this time but I'm still pissed off at myself cause I know I can do this!

so we go for 300lbs my TP nails 6 with good form and by now I'm psyching myself out I went under the bar then got back up before unhooking it in my head I'm going "its to ****ing heavy I can't do it" all the while the other part of my head is going "come on pussy you've done this on a normal bench for 4 this is a ****ing smith machine!"

My TP starts really winding me up calling me a pussy and grabs hold of my shirt and tells me I can do this or go the **** home.

So I go under the bar once more unhook it and get a ****ing mint 6 reps with perfect form and even though it feels heavy and I was so in control it was unreal.

I get up pumped to **** and then we down the weight to 260 and I piss 12 with good form then we go down to 230 and I nail 14 good form for the final set.

Then we hit the flat dumbell press and I grab a couple of 40kgs (dumbells are in kgs, plates are in lbs in my gym go figure?) and I'm a bit aprehensive as I was struggling on the Smith but I piss all over 12 reps and move up to 42kgs and hit 10 no probs then finish with 2 sets of 6 with 44kg dumbells.

On the final set of 44's I even had to blokes stop to watch me and as I dropped them to the floor after my 6th rep one of them said "Hes a strong ****er" which I must admit made me smile.

Even with the good lifts I was spent and we still had flyes and a full tricep workout to go I really was feeling like I gad no energy at all!

We hit flyes and I can only use one word to describe them SHIT I had nothing left I was spent which isn't like me at all.

So we move on to tri's and I pissed everything It was like I had a second wind and I was feeling strong again.

So we finish with some push ups to get a good pump and I fell flat on my face by my 30th one and really didn't think I was getting up I usually crank out 50 no probs but it wasn't happening tonight.

Does anyone else have days like this where your up and down during a workout?

I'm thinking maybe coming off the creatine has caught up with me and I'm feeling the loss of endurance, I was going to leave it another week or so before cycling it again but I'm wondering if I should just **** it and start loading again tomorrow, any suggestions?

Deadpool · 10-05-2005, 10:46 PM

Bump

Anyone? anyone at all? suggestions?

Or am I just a freak and this has never happened to anyone else?

Ahh I knew I was special lol

exaktlywhat · 10-05-2005, 11:17 PM

oh youre special alright, and over here we have a special short bus that picks up the special kids to go to school! seriously though, i get that way sometimes when im doing a body part i dont like to work, so if its a night where im doing two parts i like to put the least fave with one i like to do. then i do the one i dont like first. i really hate just going thru the motions though, i dont think i get as good of a workout. i know how you feel though, if i couldnt do more than 6 reps with 300lbs id feel like a big pussy too! j/k, sounds like it was just an off day, we all get those, as long as you move on from it and it doesnt happen continuously.

pie muncher · 10-05-2005, 11:38 PM

totally different question but why does everyone keep putting "bump" at the start of thier posts lately? is it when no one replies?

Deadpool · 11-05-2005, 12:16 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by pie muncher

totally different question but why does everyone keep putting "bump" at the start of thier posts lately? is it when no one replies?

Message board term to "Bump" the topic up so as people notice it.

I actually enjoy chest and tricep day, its Leg day that I hate but have to do because I know its essential.

Which is why it was so weird I've had off days before, but I seemed to peak and trough tonight rather than just trough.

Your right though I need to get it out of my head before my next workout otherwise It could become a trend.

What about going back on the creatine anyone think I should leave it or start loading it tomorrow?

exaktlywhat · 11-05-2005, 12:44 AM

im not sure of the health concerns if any involved, never did the stuff myself. but it might also be a big mental thing too, like a crutch. you know youre not on it anymore so you dont think you can perform like you did when you were. what the mind believes the body acheives. i would try it for a week without and if its still not improving for you, go back. i know it did make some difference but im pretty sure that it wasnt that big and certainly not going to be that much change in that short of a time, but like i said i dont know from exp. but from what i know of you on here you are a decently experienced lifter and this doesnt sound like something that would be long term for you. was it just when you did chest and tris? i had no problem getting back into my workout even after being down almost 2 months after a cycle in which i made explosive gains in size and strength. in fact, the only thing i could not do as heavy as i did on cycle was chest. its the only part that i backslid some in off cycle.

Deadpool · 11-05-2005, 01:43 AM

Yeah just chest and tris worked legs on saturday and my squat went up by another 30lbs or so, thats why it confused me when I got underneath a bench I usally lift no probs and all of a sudden it was heavy as ****!

My tris also were no problem didn't gain any but didn't lose any either.

The only reason I point to the creatine is that maybe I've lost a bit of endurance after all the weights went up I just felt really flat.

I've had a sore throat the last couple of nights though when I think about it so maybe I'm coming down with something and its making me a bit lethargic.

I will see how cardio goes tomorrow as this is a real test of endurance and lately my cardio has got longer and longer and I feel myself getting fitter every session.

If I'm feeling tired on that to I will get myself checked out make sure I haven't caught something and see how it goes.

As far as I know theres no health risks with Creatine well not serious ones anyway, and a lot of atheletes never cycle it just use it constantly, but your right the 3lbs I lost even though I know its from water have made me wonder if I've lost any strength or endurance I could indeed have just willed it to happen.

Mind over matter and all that..

exaktlywhat · 11-05-2005, 02:24 AM

whenever i feel like im coming down with something (with the exception of the laryngitis i just got over) i start pumping myself full of vitamin c. it works fairly well on most of the little things that go around. i wouldnt let it worry you though, get checked if the cardio goes downhill like you planned but i think youll power thru.

Deadpool · 11-05-2005, 02:37 AM

I take around 500mg Vit C every day along with Zinc, Vit D, evening Primrose, calcium, Vit B6 and B12, Omega 3,6 and 9

So I know if I get any symptoms of anything its not from lack of effort in the prevention department lol.

exaktlywhat · 11-05-2005, 02:39 AM

holy shit man, youre loaded with vitamins and minerals. well, if we ever had to resort to cannibalism we know who the healthiest one to eat would be!

10-05-2005, 09:41 PM	#1 (permalink)
Deadpool Making Progress Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: In my house Posts: 175 Rep Power:	Anyone else have days like this in the Gym? I came off a Creatine cycle a little over a week ago and I've lost about 3lbs I expected to drop some water weight so this didn't bother me, and my lifts have continued to increase so over all I was still happy. Today I hit the gym and I felt ok till I started lifting, today was a chest and triceps day and as I have mentioned me and my TP split chest into flat one week, decline the next and incline the week after that and then switch back. So its a flat day which to be honest is my favourite of the three, we can't get a bench so we hit the smith machine, I start warming up with 20 reps at 170lbs and by the 14th rep I'm feeling tired and the weights feeling more like theres 3 45's a side on there! Last time I was on the smith machine on a flat I had 280lbs for 8 and I really wanted 300lbs for 6 as I know I've got stronger since then. So I come off the warm up set and I feel really flat and tired, but try to shake it off and go for 260lbs for 12 I had to rack it back after 3 reps as it just wasn't feeling right, it was like my arms were lead weights. Now me being me I get really frustrated and refuse to let my TP take some weight off, ad go under again this time I grind out 12 reps but I do me grind! my form was **ing awful! Still I won't be beaten and we go up to 290lbs my TP hits 10 on his set and I really really want 10 to! I go under the bar unhook it and same thing I squeeze 3 reps out then rack it, I get up kick the bench throw my water bottle across the floor and shout so loud the whole gym stops. I refuse again to let him take some weight off and I go under again and manage to squeeze out 10 reps, slightly better form this time but I'm still pissed off at myself cause I know I can do this! so we go for 300lbs my TP nails 6 with good form and by now I'm psyching myself out I went under the bar then got back up before unhooking it in my head I'm going "its to ing heavy I can't do it" all the while the other part of my head is going "come on pussy you've done this on a normal bench for 4 this is a ing smith machine!" My TP starts really winding me up calling me a pussy and grabs hold of my shirt and tells me I can do this or go the home. So I go under the bar once more unhook it and get a ing mint 6 reps with perfect form and even though it feels heavy and I was so in control it was unreal. I get up pumped to and then we down the weight to 260 and I piss 12 with good form then we go down to 230 and I nail 14 good form for the final set. Then we hit the flat dumbell press and I grab a couple of 40kgs (dumbells are in kgs, plates are in lbs in my gym go figure?) and I'm a bit aprehensive as I was struggling on the Smith but I piss all over 12 reps and move up to 42kgs and hit 10 no probs then finish with 2 sets of 6 with 44kg dumbells. On the final set of 44's I even had to blokes stop to watch me and as I dropped them to the floor after my 6th rep one of them said "Hes a strong er" which I must admit made me smile. Even with the good lifts I was spent and we still had flyes and a full tricep workout to go I really was feeling like I gad no energy at all! We hit flyes and I can only use one word to describe them SHIT I had nothing left I was spent which isn't like me at all. So we move on to tri's and I pissed everything It was like I had a second wind and I was feeling strong again. So we finish with some push ups to get a good pump and I fell flat on my face by my 30th one and really didn't think I was getting up I usually crank out 50 no probs but it wasn't happening tonight. Does anyone else have days like this where your up and down during a workout? I'm thinking maybe coming off the creatine has caught up with me and I'm feeling the loss of endurance, I was going to leave it another week or so before cycling it again but I'm wondering if I should just ** it and start loading again tomorrow, any suggestions?

10-05-2005, 11:17 PM	#3 (permalink)
exaktlywhat Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: florida usa Posts: 642 Rep Power:	oh youre special alright, and over here we have a special short bus that picks up the special kids to go to school! seriously though, i get that way sometimes when im doing a body part i dont like to work, so if its a night where im doing two parts i like to put the least fave with one i like to do. then i do the one i dont like first. i really hate just going thru the motions though, i dont think i get as good of a workout. i know how you feel though, if i couldnt do more than 6 reps with 300lbs id feel like a big pussy too! j/k, sounds like it was just an off day, we all get those, as long as you move on from it and it doesnt happen continuously. ______________________ that which does not kill me only serves to make me stronger.

10-05-2005, 11:38 PM	#4 (permalink)
pie muncher Making Progress Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: birmingham Posts: 276 Rep Power:	totally different question but why does everyone keep putting "bump" at the start of thier posts lately? is it when no one replies? ______________________ dream like you liove forever, live like you die tomorrow.

11-05-2005, 12:44 AM	#6 (permalink)
exaktlywhat Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: florida usa Posts: 642 Rep Power:	im not sure of the health concerns if any involved, never did the stuff myself. but it might also be a big mental thing too, like a crutch. you know youre not on it anymore so you dont think you can perform like you did when you were. what the mind believes the body acheives. i would try it for a week without and if its still not improving for you, go back. i know it did make some difference but im pretty sure that it wasnt that big and certainly not going to be that much change in that short of a time, but like i said i dont know from exp. but from what i know of you on here you are a decently experienced lifter and this doesnt sound like something that would be long term for you. was it just when you did chest and tris? i had no problem getting back into my workout even after being down almost 2 months after a cycle in which i made explosive gains in size and strength. in fact, the only thing i could not do as heavy as i did on cycle was chest. its the only part that i backslid some in off cycle. ______________________ that which does not kill me only serves to make me stronger.

11-05-2005, 02:24 AM	#8 (permalink)
exaktlywhat Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: florida usa Posts: 642 Rep Power:	whenever i feel like im coming down with something (with the exception of the laryngitis i just got over) i start pumping myself full of vitamin c. it works fairly well on most of the little things that go around. i wouldnt let it worry you though, get checked if the cardio goes downhill like you planned but i think youll power thru. ______________________ that which does not kill me only serves to make me stronger.

10-05-2005, 10:46 PM	#2 (permalink)
Deadpool Making Progress Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: In my house Posts: 175 Rep Power:	Bump Anyone? anyone at all? suggestions? Or am I just a freak and this has never happened to anyone else? Ahh I knew I was special lol

11-05-2005, 01:43 AM	#7 (permalink)
Deadpool Making Progress Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: In my house Posts: 175 Rep Power:	Yeah just chest and tris worked legs on saturday and my squat went up by another 30lbs or so, thats why it confused me when I got underneath a bench I usally lift no probs and all of a sudden it was heavy as ****! My tris also were no problem didn't gain any but didn't lose any either. The only reason I point to the creatine is that maybe I've lost a bit of endurance after all the weights went up I just felt really flat. I've had a sore throat the last couple of nights though when I think about it so maybe I'm coming down with something and its making me a bit lethargic. I will see how cardio goes tomorrow as this is a real test of endurance and lately my cardio has got longer and longer and I feel myself getting fitter every session. If I'm feeling tired on that to I will get myself checked out make sure I haven't caught something and see how it goes. As far as I know theres no health risks with Creatine well not serious ones anyway, and a lot of atheletes never cycle it just use it constantly, but your right the 3lbs I lost even though I know its from water have made me wonder if I've lost any strength or endurance I could indeed have just willed it to happen. Mind over matter and all that..

11-05-2005, 02:37 AM	#9 (permalink)
Deadpool Making Progress Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: In my house Posts: 175 Rep Power:	I take around 500mg Vit C every day along with Zinc, Vit D, evening Primrose, calcium, Vit B6 and B12, Omega 3,6 and 9 So I know if I get any symptoms of anything its not from lack of effort in the prevention department lol.

11-05-2005, 02:39 AM	#10 (permalink)
exaktlywhat Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: florida usa Posts: 642 Rep Power:	holy shit man, youre loaded with vitamins and minerals. well, if we ever had to resort to cannibalism we know who the healthiest one to eat would be! ______________________ that which does not kill me only serves to make me stronger.

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