Best exercisse for inner chest?

Stu21Ldn · 09-05-2005, 11:00 PM

The inner chest is not an individual muscle its is a section of the pectorals. You cannot idividually train the inner chest.

It doesn't mean you won't benefit from using different exercises for each muscle group.

Hitting muscles from different angles increases overall hypertrophy.

exaktlywhat · 09-05-2005, 11:08 PM

the end.

Deadpool · 09-05-2005, 11:24 PM

Hitting you pecs from different angles definetly stimulates growth but your pecs are indeed one muscle group.

I personaly do a week of inclines, week of declines, week of flat and then back again, thought it was dumb at first but my TP said it really stimulates growth and he was right my bench shot up and I'm still gaining every session.

divie · 10-05-2005, 01:05 PM

Stu like i said m8 i dont know who started all this isolation shit, its obvious the inner chest isnt a seperate muscle group a pec is a pec full stop.
My question was whats the best way to work inner chest, im not saying i want to isolate it i just wannt an exercisse that can focus a bit more on my inner part of my chest and some exercisses do so more than others.Im not looking for blunt txt book answers which you constantly seem to give me to try and show your defiant knowledge which is copied and passed on from articles you may have searched out.
Listen stu i just think you missread my question, and why do you persist to keep saying you cant do this you cant do this, when its obvious the chest will develop differantly depending on exercisses you do.

divie · 10-05-2005, 01:18 PM

Exactlywhat, people do disagree m8 live with it.If we all agreed and accepted answers we dont truely agree with this forum would be boring and a reply would be short and quick with no explinations or thought put in to the answer.Listen m8 ive got no probs with you but you seem to do more general chit chat then BB disscushions.I come on here to learn and get big and i dont mind being wrong but i like to know why im wrong so i can learn and use information.I appriciate knowledge but more importantly i appriciate opinions as we all know the txt book stuff fro magazines and stuff.
STAY LUCKY BUD

divie · 10-05-2005, 01:25 PM

ps exactlywhat i do value your opinions and you seem to know a lot about weight training exercisses, going to try shoulder width grip tomorrow. cheers

Stu21Ldn · 10-05-2005, 04:33 PM

thats the point i'm disagreeing with you cant shape a mucle. It either gets smaller or bigger. You can't specifically make a section of a muscle bigger.

The resaon i posted the article is because its a scientific anaylsis of what we are discussing. It explains alot better than i could why you can't shape your chest. But in my own experience you can't shape muscles.

I guess we'll just have to agree to disagree

9519sam · 10-05-2005, 04:39 PM

hey stu, what about the bicep? working the inner with wide grip barbel curls and the outer with close grip? surly thats shaping a muscle with diffrent movements?

Sam

exaktlywhat · 10-05-2005, 05:00 PM

thank you sam, you beat me to the punch on the bicep thing. why do we have some ecercises that build the bicep to a peak more? and actually building a peak on a bicep is not much more involved than only working the muscle thru that range of motion, the strongest point. maybe its the case with pecs that you cannot isolate sections but i think it is wrong to assume that is the way with all muscles. and i have no problem with advice and opinions, i am a fairly opinionated person myself, the reason i said what i said was because it was becoming less informative and more "does too" "does not " "does too"...sorry if my jabber gets to you but hey, thats why you can scroll down.

Stu21Ldn · 10-05-2005, 06:50 PM

Sam

Its hard for me to explain without posting up more articles. Muscle mechanics is a pretty interesting subject, there are a lot of good articles around which explain in detail how muscle work.

Generally speaking the shape of a standard muscle (a two headed muscle) isnt determined so much by the different forces applied to it, its more to do with your genetics how the muscle is rebuilt after exercise. Basically any exercise that uses the bicep will recruit all the fibers at once, you may feel the stree more in one part of the muscle but that doesn't mean to say its being worked harder. There are a few exceptions to this, take the triceps, a three headed muscle. With the triceps its is possible to build one side more than the other because you can recruit the fibers between two heads without placing so much stress on the third head. Its a complex subject, one which has been debated back and forth for years.

If only redspy where still here hes pretty damn good at explaining this sort of thing.

Anyway what ever the theory behind muscle science at the end of the day if some thing works for you then keep doing it.

Excatlywhat - if you wanna get a peak on your biceps try reverse curls and hammers, these exercises incorporate the brachialus which runs underneath the bicep, building the brachialus pushes your bicep outwards and generally imporves the peak.

Sorry i didn't mean to bash anyone previously in the dicussion, that wasn't my intention at all. I'm still PCT atm so forgive me if a my answers are a little abrupt of harsh.

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9519sam Making Progress Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Just outside Joe16's house! Posts: 573 Rep Power:	hey stu, what about the bicep? working the inner with wide grip barbel curls and the outer with close grip? surly thats shaping a muscle with diffrent movements? Sam ______________________ That'll be another penny thanks!

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exaktlywhat Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: florida usa Posts: 642 Rep Power:	thank you sam, you beat me to the punch on the bicep thing. why do we have some ecercises that build the bicep to a peak more? and actually building a peak on a bicep is not much more involved than only working the muscle thru that range of motion, the strongest point. maybe its the case with pecs that you cannot isolate sections but i think it is wrong to assume that is the way with all muscles. and i have no problem with advice and opinions, i am a fairly opinionated person myself, the reason i said what i said was because it was becoming less informative and more "does too" "does not " "does too"...sorry if my jabber gets to you but hey, thats why you can scroll down. ______________________ that which does not kill me only serves to make me stronger.

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09-05-2005, 11:00 PM	#21 (permalink)
Stu21Ldn Join Date: Mar 2005 Posts: 721 Rep Power:	The inner chest is not an individual muscle its is a section of the pectorals. You cannot idividually train the inner chest. It doesn't mean you won't benefit from using different exercises for each muscle group. Hitting muscles from different angles increases overall hypertrophy.

09-05-2005, 11:24 PM	#23 (permalink)
Deadpool Making Progress Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: In my house Posts: 175 Rep Power:	Hitting you pecs from different angles definetly stimulates growth but your pecs are indeed one muscle group. I personaly do a week of inclines, week of declines, week of flat and then back again, thought it was dumb at first but my TP said it really stimulates growth and he was right my bench shot up and I'm still gaining every session.

10-05-2005, 01:05 PM	#24 (permalink)
divie Making Progress Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: somerset Posts: 436 Rep Power:	Stu like i said m8 i dont know who started all this isolation shit, its obvious the inner chest isnt a seperate muscle group a pec is a pec full stop. My question was whats the best way to work inner chest, im not saying i want to isolate it i just wannt an exercisse that can focus a bit more on my inner part of my chest and some exercisses do so more than others.Im not looking for blunt txt book answers which you constantly seem to give me to try and show your defiant knowledge which is copied and passed on from articles you may have searched out. Listen stu i just think you missread my question, and why do you persist to keep saying you cant do this you cant do this, when its obvious the chest will develop differantly depending on exercisses you do.

10-05-2005, 01:18 PM	#25 (permalink)
divie Making Progress Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: somerset Posts: 436 Rep Power:	Exactlywhat, people do disagree m8 live with it.If we all agreed and accepted answers we dont truely agree with this forum would be boring and a reply would be short and quick with no explinations or thought put in to the answer.Listen m8 ive got no probs with you but you seem to do more general chit chat then BB disscushions.I come on here to learn and get big and i dont mind being wrong but i like to know why im wrong so i can learn and use information.I appriciate knowledge but more importantly i appriciate opinions as we all know the txt book stuff fro magazines and stuff. STAY LUCKY BUD

10-05-2005, 01:25 PM	#26 (permalink)
divie Making Progress Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: somerset Posts: 436 Rep Power:	ps exactlywhat i do value your opinions and you seem to know a lot about weight training exercisses, going to try shoulder width grip tomorrow. cheers

10-05-2005, 04:33 PM	#27 (permalink)
Stu21Ldn Join Date: Mar 2005 Posts: 721 Rep Power:	thats the point i'm disagreeing with you cant shape a mucle. It either gets smaller or bigger. You can't specifically make a section of a muscle bigger. The resaon i posted the article is because its a scientific anaylsis of what we are discussing. It explains alot better than i could why you can't shape your chest. But in my own experience you can't shape muscles. I guess we'll just have to agree to disagree

10-05-2005, 06:50 PM	#30 (permalink)
Stu21Ldn Join Date: Mar 2005 Posts: 721 Rep Power:	Sam Its hard for me to explain without posting up more articles. Muscle mechanics is a pretty interesting subject, there are a lot of good articles around which explain in detail how muscle work. Generally speaking the shape of a standard muscle (a two headed muscle) isnt determined so much by the different forces applied to it, its more to do with your genetics how the muscle is rebuilt after exercise. Basically any exercise that uses the bicep will recruit all the fibers at once, you may feel the stree more in one part of the muscle but that doesn't mean to say its being worked harder. There are a few exceptions to this, take the triceps, a three headed muscle. With the triceps its is possible to build one side more than the other because you can recruit the fibers between two heads without placing so much stress on the third head. Its a complex subject, one which has been debated back and forth for years. If only redspy where still here hes pretty damn good at explaining this sort of thing. Anyway what ever the theory behind muscle science at the end of the day if some thing works for you then keep doing it. Excatlywhat - if you wanna get a peak on your biceps try reverse curls and hammers, these exercises incorporate the brachialus which runs underneath the bicep, building the brachialus pushes your bicep outwards and generally imporves the peak. Sorry i didn't mean to bash anyone previously in the dicussion, that wasn't my intention at all. I'm still PCT atm so forgive me if a my answers are a little abrupt of harsh.