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Old 19-04-2005, 08:55 PM   #1 (permalink)
 
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Default Training regime i'm following atm

I have a fitness freak mate who knows all the science.

heres his workout that i'm doing at the moment for about 4 weeks. It breaks some of the most respected rules in bodybuilding but it works well for people who are doing it ! check it out if ur interested

btw is a direct paste from the email he sent me so sorry for any personalisations that might not make sense:

Day 1 - Back
Dead lift x 3
Barbell Shrugs x 2
Weighted pull up x 3
Barbell row x 2
Dumbell rows x 1


Day 2 - Chest
Bench x 3
Inclines x 3
Declines x 3


Day 3 AM - cardio 25 mins fast as you can

Day 3 PM - Arms
Dumbell curls x 3
Barbell/ez bar curls x 2
Lying tricep extension x 3
Cable pushdown x 2


Day 4 - Legs
Calf raises x 3
Stiff leg deadlifts x 2
Leg press etc, depending on what you can do total about 6 sets


Day 5 - Cardio 45 hour fast as you can
Ideally not on the legs, ie. swim


Day 6 - Shoulders and abs
Dumbell shoulder press x 3
Standing military press x 2
Standing bent over lateral raises x 2
Swiss ball leg raises x 2
Weighted ab crunch x 2



And on the 7th day he rested

Notes
- Warm the muscle you will be exercising: three sets 12 x rep weight, 8 x rep weight, 2 x rep weight.
- Once warm, next exercise does not need a warm up, i.e. chest warm from bench so no new warm up for incline. Maybe do the final of the warm up sets (2 x ) as an acclimatisation to get used to the movement.
- On warm up sets concentrate on perfect form
- On reps push the bar with maximum power, i.e as fast as you can. The first set you should manage between 4 and 6 reps, this will decrease each set, if it goes up you either mistimed your breaks (see below) or you did not try hard enough on the last set.
- If you do 6 easily put the weight up for second and third set.
- If you cant do a full range of movement and maintain good form then the weight is too high but if this is one of the later sets (2 or 3) just do fewer reps do not reduce the weight.
- Only put the weight up from the last week when you did 6 then 4 or 5 on the first and second sets that week
- Have a spotter for confidence but as soon as they have helped you stop the set. They should only touch the bar, even feather light, if they are racking or un-racking the bar. Apart from that get them to get their hands away till you fail not just struggle. I find it more satisfying to know I am doing it alone, also you panic that you are going to be crushed and push harder!
- You do not count any rep that the spotter helped with however little, that was with a lower, unknown, weight and so can not be compared to the other reps.
- Have three or 4 teaspoons of dextrose in the protein shakes before and after your workouts. This bit really matters.
- Always have 1 teaspoon of dextrose with a shake unless it is with a meal. If you are worried about the amount of carbs eat less at other times but if you want to get big I would not cut anything out of your diet.
- Never do a drop down set ever.
- Doing fewer sets than you are used to means you have to focus and make them count. It is all about intensity, you are not there to chat or offer advice to others, be an attitude ridden aggressive **** for 4 weeks, the focus will work.
- Time everything, 3 minutes between exercises, 2.30 between sets. Stick to it by planning ahead. By always monitoring the time you will not lose focus on your lifting with other concerns like friends or how you look, those are things you can think about after your workout. Also, write down what you do as you go for the same reason, more focus
- Before you go to the gym look at what you did in the same workout last week, know what weight you are going to do and how many reps you have to beat, each week you will be stronger so even if the weight is constant the reps increase. If you lie down knowing you have to lift 6 because you did 4 the week before it is a lot easier than thinking Ill see how I go, spotter: help me when I look a bit lazy because I am an unfocussed prick who does not know exactly what hes about to do right now and as a result turn out really inconsistent performances and make few long term gains.
- You might find you dont have stunning weeks, that is only because they are not being compared to shit weeks when youre tired because you have over worked. If you make steady progress, lets say 2.5kg per 5 weeks per exercise, think about what you can do in a year.
- All of this is my opinion, but nonetheless should be taken as the word of God.


let us know what u think

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Old 20-04-2005, 05:48 AM   #2 (permalink)
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a work out like this would kill me, i've been doing a 5 day split (chest,legs,back,shoulders,arms, no cardio) for a wile now but have just changed to a 3 day a week cos i was feeling worse and worse as the week went on , not getting enuff rest through work and stuff i guess,

i think this sort of work out would be benificial if your in pretty good shape to start with

i like the really low rep high intensity aspect
be interested to know how you get on

what was your rutine like before this one?

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this was my old training regime, and did a whole review of what i was doing so decided to do something different hence this new one

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i'd do shrugs on shoulder day as they get worked more doing shoulders than back, and train to complete positive failiure on all sets. also id replace dumbell shoulder press with behind neck press its a neglected exercise but these are pretty minor points the rest is all very similar to how i train myself, timeings num of sets and exercises all good.
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id replace dumbell shoulder press with behind neck press its a neglected exercise .
Gary, I was on the understanding that behind the neck presses were bad for rotator cuffs, is that correct? Never do them, so no experience of it.

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Gary, I was on the understanding that behind the neck presses were bad for rotator cuffs
yeah i hear this to but then i see this huge bloke doing them at the gym today

does it cause problems for some and not others or is it a moderation thing cos i kinda liked em

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- Never do a drop down set ever.
whats the thinking behind: no drop down sets. For me, training a body part once a week would suggest a lot of drop sets to get the desired intensity. I have recently started a 4 day split and am finding that I need to totally fatigue myself cos I have a whole week to recover.
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the idea behind this is to overload the muscle not overtrain.

if you only do the highest weight on the muscle you will overload on power, the maximum amount of strain possible on the muscle, without giving it a let up. This will stimulate the greatest fibre deconstruction and thus promote protein synthesis most effectively.

doing drop sets will only lessen the lasting effect of the overload you just achieved by doing the heavy weight, and strain past any useful point.


-- i can get my trainer guy to give a proper explanation if you like but thats what i seem to get from what he says, i could be incorrect

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Well, the 'proof is in the pudding' as they say 8)

Keep us posted on your progress, nick

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