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Old 06-04-2005, 09:54 PM   #1 (permalink)
 
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Default How long should i do garys beginners routine for?

How long should i stay on your beginer routine gary?.Ive been doing it for 5 months, and alough ive been debating about changing to a 5 day split i might just carry on with your routine as in my opinion keeping the muscle working 3 times a week must be better than just ripping you muscle once a week like a 5 day split does.I know either way ill be doing the same sets in a week.
Why is a 5 day split used by the more experianced members, and if its a better way to train our muscles im keen on doing it.

PS feel free for any member to coment on this, im keen to keep progressing like everyone and im worried ive been doing this routine to long.Im still gaining a pound a week but im not sure if my muscles are still growing as its hard to tell when you look at yourself everyday.
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Old 06-04-2005, 09:58 PM   #2 (permalink)
 
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Old 07-04-2005, 01:50 AM   #3 (permalink)
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From what I've learned from this forum, after a while training 3 times a week full body, can become over training as the muscles fibers change and body adapts to the stress. That's why people chnage to 4/5 day splits and train muscle groups less to give it a longer rest but to work it harder aswell. Not a very good explanation, I know!

So I think :?:
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Old 07-04-2005, 08:53 AM   #4 (permalink)
 
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Why is a 5 day split used by the more experianced members, and if its a better way to train our muscles im keen on doing it.
There arent really any training programs that are better than others. Some are better for hypertrophy, some better for strength and some better for endurance.

The 4day split involves organising your workouts into body parts so my old 4 day split looked like this (im doing 3day/full body atm)

Mon:
Chest/Tris

Wed:
Back/Bis

Friday:
Legs/Traps

Sat:
Abs/Shoulders

Most people use HIT training with a routine like this, it envovles big weights with low volume. So for my spit i would use

smaller muscle groups: chest/tris/bis/traps 6sets
larger muscle groups: shoulders/legs/back 9sets

more experienced lifters can go even lower than this

each exercise should results in failure in the 2nd and 3rd sets
each set should be in the region of 5-8 reps(if training for mass) lower if training for strength

the key to this style of training is consistency and progerssive resistance. far too many people chop and change there routines too often.

progressive resistance means increasing the weights for each exercise gradually as your muscles get stronger. Its a good program if done correctly and consistently.

the reason its not recommended for beginners is because it requires experience to hit your muscles as hard as possible in a smaller number of sets.

hope this helps
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how long have you been on it ?

i used it for the first 3 years and made good consistent gains you can swapp exercises about if things get a bit stale but not to often every few months.

over training is the product of two things frequency of training and amount of work done when training, thats why i kept the total sets down.

i believe you are ready to move on from this routine when through experience you have enough of an understanding of the exercises and methods to know what works for you and what doesnt at that point you wont need to ask you will be capable of putting it together yourself, it will probably be a natural evolution but you dont go from begginer to advanced over night or even in a couple of years
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Old 07-04-2005, 04:41 PM   #6 (permalink)
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Ive been doing it for over 5 months Gary, its a good routine so ill stick to it.I was talking to a BB the other day and he said he used to do a 3 day workout when he started but now he does a 5 day split and hes only been training 2 years, so i thought i should be looking to do a 5 day soon or next year like he did.Im still very new to all of this thats why i ask questions and try to learn from the more experianced guys.If i didnt ask this question i would be doing a 3 day workout for the rest of my BB life which could be 20 years.Ive set myself a new goal as i lost sight of what i was trying to achieve.When i reach goals i should set a new one, but i didnt and as a result ive been coasting thees last couple of weeks.My new aim is to get to 14 stone by xmas, im 12 9 at the mo but at 6 ft 2 id class myself as average for my age 21, but i want to get big within 3 years or so.
ps im planning on bulking solid for 1 year is this ok.THANX
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Old 07-04-2005, 04:51 PM   #7 (permalink)
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ps i had a good session last night, i think i just lost my motivation and what i wanted to achieve recently, but im back on track, im going to go on a mission again and force my muscles to grow and get out of the comfort zone.
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Good luck reaching your goals mate, I recon you can make it!!

Yeah, I've lost motivation at times, at the moment I have so much but i'm not even able to train!!!! Keep on thinking about routines and diet ect.
I'm just winding myself up!!

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Why cant you train benji? strained a muscle or something :?:
Cheers for the encouragement benji ,
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Yeah I've injured my shoulder I thought it might have been my rotor cuff :? , but I went to the doctors and they said it was just a pulled muscle which I hope it is too. So its no training for 6 -8 weeks :cry: And even then I need to take it easy!

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