Would Long cardio once a week kill gains

Snake47 · 07-10-2004, 06:26 PM

Hi
I was wondering, if once a week (say a sunday) i eat 2000 cals of junk to get it out of my system and then get on the bike after for two hours would this work? Also, would the two hours, done once a week kill gains?

zx9rjas · 07-10-2004, 09:11 PM

This would have an effect on gains, just take a look at long distance athletes.
Much better to split the time up by 4-8 times and work at a higher intensity.

Try 15-20 minutes of of sprint training 3 times per week. 4 minutes jog, then sprint for 15-20 seconds jog for 45-40 seconds (repeat 8-12 times) then slow jog for a further 4 minutes.

This would get the heart working faster, burn alot of calories and give you some power/mass to the legs (and upper body). I have used this before and I lose bodyfat easier, retain more mass and get gains on my legs.

J

mark · 08-10-2004, 08:34 AM

Compare a long distance runner to that american sprinter (can't remember his name - he was at the olypics).

The sprinter was massive!

vinger · 08-10-2004, 09:33 AM

Shawn Crawford.

mark · 08-10-2004, 04:01 PM

Thats him - the guys ****in huge - looks like he could have left the track and gone straight to the powerlifting competition!

Snake47 · 09-10-2004, 10:08 AM

Ok, but what if i get the odd craving for junk, i am building up but i want to do it clean. Havn't really had a craving yet but i wanna be prepared for christmas as my granny can really cook lol

zx9rjas · 09-10-2004, 09:46 PM

everyone has a cheat food/day. This lets the body know that when it is getting good food it puts it to use, but eben on your cheating make sure you get your amount of protein.
One thing is certain, going mad for it on the cardio is not a good idea.

If you get a craving think to yourself, what is more important too much junk food+fat gain or good nutrition and good body/strength. You will find out what matters more to you.

J

Benji · 10-10-2004, 10:42 PM

Whats this cardio for mate?

Snake47 · 11-10-2004, 10:05 PM

Well, the routine i have used so far is to have a junk binge on sundayn and then, on the monday, do 3 hours cardio in the morning and only take in 500-1000 cals that day to pay for my sin.
Ok, i realise this was nuts so i am stopping that now. I have changed my diet and upped my protein/meat intake so i don't really crave pizza's or KFC. The only things i crave now and then is stuff with no use like ice-cream and cakes and stuff. If i tell myself NEVER AGAIN, i'll go nuts. Dammint, i guess i just need to focus on my goals, but what can help and are there any things that are not junky but taste sweet so i can pretend i am cheating. The only thing i use at the mo is sugar free jelly.

zx9rjas · 11-10-2004, 11:00 PM

Theres nothing wrong with cheating now one or twice a week as long as you dont do it to excess.
Dont say to yourself "never again" as that will make you want it more as we are build to break rules. If you want to cheat do it but dont go mad and definately dont make yourself pay for it by doing extra cardio of cutting food too low.
These extra calories will addd to your intake and help you gain mass, sure thay aren't great quality but its better than reducing the calories the next day and losing 2 lbs of muscle.

If you wanted something sweet try maltodextrin powder, You can add it to anything and believe me it tastes really sweet but it is not a sugar, it is a starch derived carbohydrate and will give sustained energy, Best used with protein powder before a workout and straight after but really you can have it anytime you get the craving.

J

07-10-2004, 06:26 PM	#1 (permalink)
Snake47 Under Construction Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: London Posts: 36 Rep Power:	Would Long cardio once a week kill gains Hi I was wondering, if once a week (say a sunday) i eat 2000 cals of junk to get it out of my system and then get on the bike after for two hours would this work? Also, would the two hours, done once a week kill gains?

07-10-2004, 09:11 PM	#2 (permalink)
zx9rjas Making Progress Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Southampton Posts: 343 Rep Power:	Cardio This would have an effect on gains, just take a look at long distance athletes. Much better to split the time up by 4-8 times and work at a higher intensity. Try 15-20 minutes of of sprint training 3 times per week. 4 minutes jog, then sprint for 15-20 seconds jog for 45-40 seconds (repeat 8-12 times) then slow jog for a further 4 minutes. This would get the heart working faster, burn alot of calories and give you some power/mass to the legs (and upper body). I have used this before and I lose bodyfat easier, retain more mass and get gains on my legs. J ______________________ 50% of bodybuilding is nutrition 50% of body building is not overtraining If you cant gain see the above

09-10-2004, 09:46 PM	#7 (permalink)
zx9rjas Making Progress Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Southampton Posts: 343 Rep Power:	cheat everyone has a cheat food/day. This lets the body know that when it is getting good food it puts it to use, but eben on your cheating make sure you get your amount of protein. One thing is certain, going mad for it on the cardio is not a good idea. If you get a craving think to yourself, what is more important too much junk food+fat gain or good nutrition and good body/strength. You will find out what matters more to you. J ______________________ 50% of bodybuilding is nutrition 50% of body building is not overtraining If you cant gain see the above

10-10-2004, 10:42 PM	#8 (permalink)
Benji Making Progress Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Warrington, Cheshire Posts: 184 Rep Power:	Whats this cardio for mate? ______________________ Benj

11-10-2004, 11:00 PM	#10 (permalink)
zx9rjas Making Progress Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Southampton Posts: 343 Rep Power:	junk Theres nothing wrong with cheating now one or twice a week as long as you dont do it to excess. Dont say to yourself "never again" as that will make you want it more as we are build to break rules. If you want to cheat do it but dont go mad and definately dont make yourself pay for it by doing extra cardio of cutting food too low. These extra calories will addd to your intake and help you gain mass, sure thay aren't great quality but its better than reducing the calories the next day and losing 2 lbs of muscle. If you wanted something sweet try maltodextrin powder, You can add it to anything and believe me it tastes really sweet but it is not a sugar, it is a starch derived carbohydrate and will give sustained energy, Best used with protein powder before a workout and straight after but really you can have it anytime you get the craving. J ______________________ 50% of bodybuilding is nutrition 50% of body building is not overtraining If you cant gain see the above

08-10-2004, 08:34 AM	#3 (permalink)
mark Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: England Posts: 365 Rep Power:	Compare a long distance runner to that american sprinter (can't remember his name - he was at the olypics). The sprinter was massive!

08-10-2004, 09:33 AM	#4 (permalink)
vinger Making Progress Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: manchester Posts: 348 Rep Power:	Shawn Crawford.

08-10-2004, 04:01 PM	#5 (permalink)
mark Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: England Posts: 365 Rep Power:	Thats him - the guys ****in huge - looks like he could have left the track and gone straight to the powerlifting competition!

09-10-2004, 10:08 AM	#6 (permalink)
Snake47 Under Construction Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: London Posts: 36 Rep Power:	Ok, but what if i get the odd craving for junk, i am building up but i want to do it clean. Havn't really had a craving yet but i wanna be prepared for christmas as my granny can really cook lol

11-10-2004, 10:05 PM	#9 (permalink)
Snake47 Under Construction Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: London Posts: 36 Rep Power:	Well, the routine i have used so far is to have a junk binge on sundayn and then, on the monday, do 3 hours cardio in the morning and only take in 500-1000 cals that day to pay for my sin. Ok, i realise this was nuts so i am stopping that now. I have changed my diet and upped my protein/meat intake so i don't really crave pizza's or KFC. The only things i crave now and then is stuff with no use like ice-cream and cakes and stuff. If i tell myself NEVER AGAIN, i'll go nuts. Dammint, i guess i just need to focus on my goals, but what can help and are there any things that are not junky but taste sweet so i can pretend i am cheating. The only thing i use at the mo is sugar free jelly.

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