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mark · 06-04-2004, 04:48 PM

Squat bars are usually 20 or 25kg mate

We have got both in our gym!

vinger · 06-04-2004, 05:39 PM

Benj, you gotta keep squating.

If your not to confident to bang the weights on then just squat the bar for a while until the technique feels good.

Its better than not doin em at all.

You'll be surprised how fast you improve.

Dont be embarrassed in the gym, **** everyone else!!!

We all had to start some where.

simzy · 07-04-2004, 12:43 PM

the trouble with free-weight squatting for beginners is that feeling of this is so un-comfortable and scary!

you really should start off with what may seem a feeble weight but don't worry about that to start with.

after a few weeks your confidence will build up with your form becoming more stable then that feeling of will i fall backwards will go and you will feel better with weight being supported on your traps, then you can start progressing with a little more weight

themule · 07-04-2004, 01:03 PM

Good point simzy, this is exactly what i have done,i even practiced with, a weightless bar, at home,does no harm at all, and like one of the other guys was saying to hell with everyone else, your doing it for you not for them, one more point, when you get into doing em, you actually end up enjoying it in due to the benefits you get from squatting, it is excellent for the c.v. system and conditions the whole body as well as stimulating growth. Keep squatting.

Dave.

TJ · 07-04-2004, 03:46 PM

Vinger said: -

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Dont be embarrassed in the gym, **** everyone else!!!

I totaly agree, your there to train yourself and shouldnt give a shit what others think. If anyone of them members were decent enough they would have offered some assistance and not sat there staring.

I remember when I first started bench pressing back in 98 and I could only lift 20kg (the bar by it's self) and I felt stupid, but knew I was new to it all and now I can bench press 120kg. I have just bought a 140kg olympic weights set to so more weight to lift...wooo who.

lol

themule · 07-04-2004, 05:19 PM

Hey TJ, I'll be totally honest, my bench isnt great, but ive practiced to perfection almost,and i know my form is good, i think its definately more quality than quantity, quantity to me is always a last thing, as my quality reps do more than enough to cover me just now, i think if a lot of beginners, looked at putting more effort into form, rather than just joining a gym, and trying to look good by lifting x amount of weight so many times so that they dont get embarrassed, is a bad start, as then form and strictness which give the gains, goes out the window, what are youre thoughts mate.

Dave.

vinger · 07-04-2004, 05:49 PM

I agree dave, you've gotta get the technique right first and foremost!

That was my point earlier really about not being ashamed or embarassed to stay light and get everything right.

Deadlift is my weakness so im staying light until i learn to keep my damb ass down in the starting position, and anyone looking at me deadlifting an empty bar and smirking can go and get bent!

Vinger

TJ · 07-04-2004, 08:01 PM

Yeah I think (know) your totaly right, been vain all the time is not a good thing.

I started in the gym back in 98 and the big guys (I mean proper big chemicaly assisted) were lifing 45kg dumbbells and gunting like hell and swinging them up not lifting them. Now Im not saying that they should be able to lift that eaisly (been on roids) but swinging the weight everywhere and gunting and straining whilst doing it is not a good thing.

It's far better to use enough weight to fail on your last repetiton and use correct form that to go mad.

I can lift 20kg (bicep curls on one arm) but so fuc**ng what, I have to host it up (swing it) and strain like hell if I am to do that, otherwise I am lifting 13kg curls on each arm with no problems.

I have done a course (Y.M.C.A) as a Gym/Fitness Instructor and am going in for a Personal trainer course and one thing we are told is to use a small enough weight to show clients how to perform the exercise correctly and safely, after the movement is learnt with correct form then and only then do you progress upwards with the weights adding a small amount each time to keep the body challenged.

Good luck people...

Benj · 07-04-2004, 09:46 PM

Cheers for the moral support guys, gonna go squat an empty bar next week, like you said once I get used to it I can start putting on the weights!

Benj

themule · 07-04-2004, 09:52 PM

Hey TJ, absolutely right, spot on, strict form, then progressive overload.

To all the beginners out there you could do a damn sight worse than look at these postings.

Dave.

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06-04-2004, 04:48 PM	#11 (permalink)
mark Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: England Posts: 365 Rep Power:	Squat bars are usually 20 or 25kg mate We have got both in our gym!

06-04-2004, 05:39 PM	#12 (permalink)
vinger Making Progress Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: manchester Posts: 348 Rep Power:	Benj, you gotta keep squating. If your not to confident to bang the weights on then just squat the bar for a while until the technique feels good. Its better than not doin em at all. You'll be surprised how fast you improve. Dont be embarrassed in the gym, **** everyone else!!! We all had to start some where.

07-04-2004, 01:03 PM	#14 (permalink)
themule Making Progress Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: scotland Posts: 540 Rep Power:	Good point simzy, this is exactly what i have done,i even practiced with, a weightless bar, at home,does no harm at all, and like one of the other guys was saying to hell with everyone else, your doing it for you not for them, one more point, when you get into doing em, you actually end up enjoying it in due to the benefits you get from squatting, it is excellent for the c.v. system and conditions the whole body as well as stimulating growth. Keep squatting. Dave.

07-04-2004, 05:19 PM	#16 (permalink)
themule Making Progress Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: scotland Posts: 540 Rep Power:	Hey TJ, I'll be totally honest, my bench isnt great, but ive practiced to perfection almost,and i know my form is good, i think its definately more quality than quantity, quantity to me is always a last thing, as my quality reps do more than enough to cover me just now, i think if a lot of beginners, looked at putting more effort into form, rather than just joining a gym, and trying to look good by lifting x amount of weight so many times so that they dont get embarrassed, is a bad start, as then form and strictness which give the gains, goes out the window, what are youre thoughts mate. Dave.

07-04-2004, 05:49 PM	#17 (permalink)
vinger Making Progress Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: manchester Posts: 348 Rep Power:	I agree dave, you've gotta get the technique right first and foremost! That was my point earlier really about not being ashamed or embarassed to stay light and get everything right. Deadlift is my weakness so im staying light until i learn to keep my damb ass down in the starting position, and anyone looking at me deadlifting an empty bar and smirking can go and get bent! Vinger

07-04-2004, 08:01 PM	#18 (permalink)
TJ Making Progress Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: The Gym Posts: 269 Rep Power:	Yeah I think (know) your totaly right, been vain all the time is not a good thing. I started in the gym back in 98 and the big guys (I mean proper big chemicaly assisted) were lifing 45kg dumbbells and gunting like hell and swinging them up not lifting them. Now Im not saying that they should be able to lift that eaisly (been on roids) but swinging the weight everywhere and gunting and straining whilst doing it is not a good thing. It's far better to use enough weight to fail on your last repetiton and use correct form that to go mad. I can lift 20kg (bicep curls on one arm) but so fuc**ng what, I have to host it up (swing it) and strain like hell if I am to do that, otherwise I am lifting 13kg curls on each arm with no problems. I have done a course (Y.M.C.A) as a Gym/Fitness Instructor and am going in for a Personal trainer course and one thing we are told is to use a small enough weight to show clients how to perform the exercise correctly and safely, after the movement is learnt with correct form then and only then do you progress upwards with the weights adding a small amount each time to keep the body challenged. Good luck people...

07-04-2004, 09:46 PM	#19 (permalink)
Benj Making Progress Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Uk - North West Posts: 289 Rep Power:	Cheers for the moral support guys, gonna go squat an empty bar next week, like you said once I get used to it I can start putting on the weights! Benj

07-04-2004, 09:52 PM	#20 (permalink)
themule Making Progress Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: scotland Posts: 540 Rep Power:	Hey TJ, absolutely right, spot on, strict form, then progressive overload. To all the beginners out there you could do a damn sight worse than look at these postings. Dave.