f***in waste of time!!!

stan666

hello lads. listen, i like to think i know my stuff, ive been at this game for a few years now and have good gains, i ve just hit a bit of a platau and cant bloody get any further. im not due to hit the test again for months as i am very careful and use it minimally but in the past ive had no probs getting through these barriers where i cant progress. tried changing my routines, reps, diet, and even stopped the beer treats on the weekend but cant shift up to my next weights... any tips for this would be much appriciated. think i need some unusual workouts that my muscles have no experience of to shock them cos the regular lifts are having little effect.

themule

Hi stan, i know you ve probably heard this before but i started using META-CEL and A)As a hard gainer,B)as soon as i stopped gaining i started using this, and the gains ive made have been superb, the only thing is that its around 45.00 quid for 33 servings but if it s helped me put on nearly a stone in the last six weeks also my poundage has increased my recovery is far quicker and overall appearance has benefitted, i know you have heard all that before but it might be worth a look, web site is www.meta-cel.com. I know i am talking to someone who knows their stuff i hope you dont think i am giving you false hope. i hope this helps in a small way.

dave.

Anonymous

what sort of training are you currently doing stan?

ive done bodybuilding for a while now,just recently i hit a plateu,since then ive started to do a bit of powerlifting and strongman training,

e.g farmers walk,log lift,etc

ive noticed ive gained,strength on alot of exercises,got better grip which comes very handy,this must be from the farmers walk. and got alot more stamina due to the intensity of the training,

my deadlifts have gone up from doing 6 reps on 190kg to 12 reps on 190 kg,this is within 1 week,i seem to be gaining each week.

if your not doing this already,maybe you could do one day a week,
youll definately get stronger.

steve

stan666

thanks mule, im always up for trying new things- ive heard of metacel but never tried their stuff out so as its worked for you ill give it a go mate. ill let you know if it helps me.

cheers steve, i appriciate the advice. so basically what you're saying is instead of changing the exercice to the muscle itself change the whole movement... a total compound movement instead of isolating one individual muscle at a time? sounds like a very good idea, i hadn't thought along those lines. ive been altering (for example) the bicep isolation exercise, ie preacher curl by changing angles- leaning into the lift instead of leaning back on a bench etc but the compound movment thing should be alien to my body therefore if i hit it hard i can wake it up and start making progress again. Ill do that and let you know what happens.

Thanks again lads :twisted: :twisted: :twisted:

garethxxx

Hi Stan

My weight training partner is on MetaCel, and he has noticed some significant gains. That stuff is very strong. Also try ZMASS PM from Cytodyne, that is amazing stuff, I found some incredible gains very quickly, huge gains in the strength department and lost weight too, so I am very pleased with it!

Try any of these Stan but research them first and see what suits you!

All the best

dboler

when i hit a plateau i go back to basics, i leave all isolation exercises and concentrate for 4 weeks on heavy compound exercises, i lift heavy,low reps, and plenty of rest in between, ie 1 day on and 2 days off. I think Steve's advice is spot on, try something completely different

dboler

1. Squats (4 sets x 10 reps)

2. Bench Press (4 sets x 10 reps)

3. Bent-Over Barbell Rowing (4 sets x 10 reps)

I also like to throw in some deadlfts,chins and dips in wk 3 and 4 - i perform these excercises if i'm using prohormones or juice, remembering to eat big and plenty of rest.

TJ

Stan,

Try this: -

Training Frequency

Aggressive strength training for several weeks takes a toll on your neuromuscular structure. To allow time to heal and time to grow, it is best to reduce your training frequency. For example, if you were to train the chest three days per week, reduce the frequency to twice a week. This will allow for ample time for your muscles to fully repair. With a fully functional neuromuscular structure, you can engage a greater intensity during your workouts.

Training Exercises

Your body will adapt to the same training stimulus over time, so you must change the training stimulus itself. Take the barbell squat for example. Barbell squats work almost every muscle in the body, but only from one direction. A key to constant growth is working the muscle from every direction. For example, instead of a barbell squat, do a front barbell squat or an overhead barbell squat. You will use less weight, but new motor units will be stimulated allowing different muscle fibers to grow. Now you can recruit additional muscle fibers for the original barbell squat. Squat strength will increase, leading to further hypertrophy gains.

Training Sets

If you have been training at three sets, up the weight and perform one intense set. On the other hand, if you have been training with single sets, decrease the weight and increase the sets to three or four. You can alternate exercises with multiple set workouts, such as a set of triceps extensions followed directly with a set of military (shoulder) presses.
This is ideal for further enhancing the training stimulus to the triceps. Furthermore, change the order of your exercises. For example, if you begin every workout with a chest exercise, start your next workout with a back exercise followed with the chest exercise.

Breakdown Training

Breakdown training is my personal favorite for stimulating muscles to grow. By recruiting additional muscle fibers deep within the muscle itself, breakdown training enormously intensifies the training stimulus. For example, say you were to bench one set of 185lbs until failure. Immediately after the final rep, decrease the weight to 145 and crank out as many reps possible, fatiguing your muscles to the point of no return.

Assisted Training

Your training partner (or a partner from nearby) can coach you through an additional 1-2 reps following momentary muscle failure. A partner can lighten resistance during the concentric phase, and even add resistance during the eccentric phase. Along with audible encouragement, assisted training is a great cross between breakdown training with negative training, which we will discuss next.

Negative Training

Negative training emphasizes the eccentric contraction of an exercise. Your muscles can control a greater weight during the eccentric phase, allowing your muscles to work at an even greater intensity. Select a weight that you can only control during the eccentric phase and have your spotter assist during the concentric phase. Your muscles will essentially be working in reverse, stimulating your muscles in a completely new way, resulting in increased muscular growth.

Slow Training

A popular technique for those who lack the time for a traditional strength routine, slow training eliminates virtually all momentum, allowing for superior muscular tension. Start with a cadence of 10-12 seconds concentrically and 4-6 seconds eccentrically. Don't plan on completing more than five or six repetitions. At five reps, your muscles will be under continuous strain for at least 70 seconds! Words of caution however; do not use this method for every workout. Such a practice will lead to undue muscular chaos, requiring prolonged recovery time.

With the above methods for preventing a strength plateau, there is no excuse for failure to grow. Select an above method and apply it for all exercises during your workout. Alternatively, use a different method for each individual exercise within the workout itself. This dynamic training routine engages your muscles from every possible direction, leading to a level of growth previously thought unimaginable.

dboler

excellent post TJ, plenty of food for thought

themule

Hi TJ, hows things, i am just posting this to say, another well documented,superb post,you have an uncanny knack of surpassing one with a better one.

Dave.