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Old 17-03-2004, 02:00 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Does anyone leave out deadlifts or are they essential?

I hate em, do i need to stop moaning and just do them or does anyone have an alternative.

I really feel im doin more harm than good sometimes whilst deadlifting.

Any advice (preferably saying leave em out ) would be great.

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vinger mate,you gotta do your deadlifts on back day.

these put mass on the whole body,and are excellent for incraesing strength in lots of other exercises.

do u ache bad after doing them,if so it could be your form,

ive done myne already today. 180kg for 11 reps.

i feel really pumped up now.

once a week is enough though.

to do a more natural form deadlift,try doing them with a heavy dumbell in each hand.

u get good at them ,youll start to like doing them.

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Old 17-03-2004, 02:33 PM   #3 (permalink)
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cheers steve,
180 for 11 reps. Nice.

Its not so much the aching the next day, i actually really like my muscles to ache. I see that as a sign ive worked hard enough.

I get a sharp pain (lower back) everytime i put the bar down.
U mentioned form and id agree with you i really strugle to keep my back tight.
Im weak off the floor only deadlifting 160kg and i can actually clean 130kg. :?

I'll stick em out though, once a week aint too bad.
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vinger do u squat aswell,

with the deadlift if you start to use the legs more,sort of like do a squat with your arms locked.

the pain should go mate
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Old 01-04-2004, 03:38 PM   #5 (permalink)
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I do squats, my favorite day is legs.

Most squats sessions usually consist of 3 sets of 3 at 150kg, followed by a couple of doubles and singles.

My last 2 back sessions ive took alot slower and warmed up for longer with lighter weights concentrating on back posture. Deadlifts have got slightly better since we last spoke and this week its deffinatley more ache than pain.
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Hey vinger when i do them, i imagine that my body is a crane and my arms the hooks sounds weird but it works for me, also i think doing them from the floor encourages proper form, which augurs well when you start using blocks etc.


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Old 01-04-2004, 03:47 PM   #7 (permalink)
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hi dave

blocks?? is that a more advanced deadlift technique?

The 'crane' technique is right mate, i know excactly what u mean.

Ive seen people try to use there arms deadlifting, u end up a with bent arms round back arse shaking technique.
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Hi vinger yes i think from a personal point of view that proper form from the floor gives you the chance to tackle, a bar deadlifting, its just like steve said practice with dumbells and before long youll be a pro, what i mean with a bar is that more advanced or experienced lifters use a step or blocks in deadlifting with a bar, i also find that anydeadlift be it with dumbells or a bar is a super exercise for your hamstrings. I hope you can understand that mish mash.

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im glad the pain is going matey,

there definately a good mass builder,since doing them regulary my calves and hamstrings are getting much bigger.

a couple of guys i no do them off blocks etc,they always swear by these.

ive got a real strong upper back ,and dont find these help me much.

i always struggle at the very lowest point,e.g about 5-10 inches off the ground,once im past this its very easy.my current deadlift is 270kg
but would like to get to 300kg by summer.

what i need to do is strengthen the lower back,

any of you guys have any good ideas for hitting the lower back,ive heard hyper extensions are good but never done them,have any of u done them
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I've done Hyperextentions before, there quite good targets the lower back very well, you need to do them weighted mind you or there far too easy!!

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