Which Supplement?

tassos81

Hey guys, I am new to this site and already ejoying all the help from people who actually know things.
I started going to the gym a bit more serious now and my regime includes CV excercises as well as weight training.
I am 170cm and weight 68kg, so I am not really fat, just want to loose a bit of fat around my lower stomach (basic problem for all men I guess).
I am taking Promax Extreme (1scoop a day) and a fat burner called 2shredded (just wanted to try). I am also thinking of trying RipFast products as I tried them before (a friend gave me some pills) and I had results.
I am not fan of chemical, steroids and injections in general, so when it comes to more natural supplements could someone tell me if what I take is ok? or maybe you could suggest something better?
Thanks

Extreme

Tassos, post up your average daily diet and how often you train and we'll try to help.

Ripfast and Maximuscle tend both to offer the same results - an empty wallet! Check any forum and you'll be advised to avoid both brands, they are big on advertising and hype which unfortunately you pay for with their over inflated prices..

tassos81

Well, I do know that these products are a rip-off and extremely expensive as they count on their name and popularity to sell. I am sure there are other products similar to those which are much cheaper. Thanks for the advise. I will definately chaeck it out.
My diet is actually quite good now, at least I think it is.
Normaly I am having oats/porridge in the morning with semi-skimmed milk. For lunch is salad with tuna/chicken/seefood (depends on the day) and for dinner fish/chicken/meat again with salad. In between I am havind small snacks like 9bar and/or fruits.
I used to eat chocolate (not too much) after my dinner but now I stopped.
This is more or less what I eat. What do you think?
Thanks

Extreme

I think your light on protein. You have no protein source at breakfast time, how much protein do you take in at lunchtime and dinner?

Between meals you should be drinking a Meal Replacement and/or at brakfast time too and if not a meal rep a protein bar.

Your muscle cells are effectively protein and water held together by a membrane made from essential fats, if you are short on these 3 nutritients you restrict your bodys ability to grow no matter how hard you train.

Obviously I'm biased but have a look at this . It is already reduced by £15 and this is for 30 servings.

Pikey

I can vouch for this stuff, I use it everytime I can't get a solid meal in, great if your driving round or busy.

cheers

Pikey

tassos81

well with my oats in the morning I use one scoop of muximuscle promax extreme and then for my mid-day snack I am having a 9 bar. I am also following a ripafast (testo-stack) circle and I drink a protein shake after my training. Do you think that this is not enough protein? Could you please give me a suggestion? I take it that you know lots more than I do and any suggestions will be welcome. After I finish the maximuscle and ripfast products I will definately try the products from the website you send me. Could you also please tell me which products I should be buying? I am interested in loosing a bit of fat and gaining some muscle...!!! Thanks

Extreme

Tassos, you need to list your diet meal by meal (including shakes and bars) if we're to workout if you're consuming enough protein.

You also need to tell us your stats, height, weight, build, how long training.

I'm not sure what you mean by a 9 bar, I thought that was what dope is sold in!

tassos81

Morning: Oats with semi-skimmed milk and a scoop of promax extreme and RipFast pills
Mid-morning: 9bar (is just a protein bar, like alpen I guess)
Lunch: Chicken salad/tuna salad (differ with days)
Mid-afternoon: fruits (bananas, apples, oranges, depends on the season)
Before work-out: ripfast pills
after workout: promax extreme shake
dinner: steak, chicken, fish (depends on the day) always with green salad.

Stats: I am 28 years old, 170cm and weight around 68kg. I guess I am on my right weight (plus or minus a few kg) but my problem is the fat around the belly (not too much but its there).

I work out about 5times a week with 15-20min on the treadmill (low speed and 3-4 sprints on high speed). Day 1: chest & biseps, Day 2: Back and triceps, Day 3: Shoulders and legs. Abs and CV everytime I am at the gym. 2 days a week rest.

I don't have time to go to the gym in the morning so it's always after work. Around 18:00

Thanks

PScarb

i have just read alot of your posts mate and you seem to be giving the same advice on all of them and that is low carb high protein diet, however looking at your diet i don't understand why you don't practice what you preach?

let me explain...

Morning: Oats with semi-skimmed milk and a scoop of promax extreme and RipFast pills
how many Oats (50g, 100g, 200g???)
Mid-morning: 9bar (is just a protein bar, like alpen I guess)
this is pretty much a sugar bar, where are the good fats and protein?
Lunch: Chicken salad/tuna salad (differ with days)
where are the good fats?
Mid-afternoon: fruits (bananas, apples, oranges, depends on the season)
again simple sugars with no fats or protein sources?
Before work-out: ripfast pills
you should be having complex carbs here to give sustained energy for training and cardio
after workout: promax extreme shake
you need either good fats or simple carbs here depending on your goals and your metabolism
dinner: steak, chicken, fish (depends on the day) always with green salad.
decent meal but again no fats

sorry mate but your carbs are mainly from the wrong sources to give a level sustained release the problem you will get is that you have multiple quick releases of insulin through the day this is not great for fat-loss....i would re-exam your carb sources(breakfast is fine) by adding good fats like Olive Oil or Peanut butter to meals you not only slow down the release of both amino acids and insulin you also give much needed energy on low carb diets....

you also need to weigh your foods so you can see how many macros and calories you get each day, you cannot expect to achieve a goal if you do not know what to lower or raise to adjust your diet...

tassos81

To PScarb
well, for the morning I don't really count the portion of oats. Just put some in the bowl. Oats have fibres which is good for the digestive system and the heart. 9 bar has sugars I agree with you but at the same time the so called good fats come from the seads they contain (not much I know, but still). For luch I still have some protein from tuna and fish (they both contain good fats). Fruits I know that they are basically sugars but don't forget that they have vitamins as well (I avoid eating them after 18:00). All meals and salads come with olive oil as well (so some good fats there as well).
As I always explain in my posts I am NOT an expert when it comes to what kind of food I should be eating to gain muscle but because I am little bit of a health freak I know quite a lot (still lots of room for more though) about nutrition and health. My posts have nothing to do with training (as I am don't know much and that's why I seek advise from others) or supplements (again I look advise from others).
I just believe that when people trying to loose weight or gain muscle they should not forget about essential foods for good health. That is what I preach and believe me I do follow those ones myself as well.
As you can see I do know what to eat to be healty I just don't know what to eat to either loose fat or gain muscle and for that I do appreciate your advise.