does hot-rox extreme really work?

FAT BOY

post up your diet and current training m8 and we will ttake a look

Pender

dude ill take anything even if it helps only a lil

Pender

ok well i really dont have one hahaha i just started liftin three weeks ago and its all upper like my main focus is arms neck back and chest and i dont really have a diet i mean i am pretty much new to the game

PScarb

what is your diet like??
you aint going to grow no matter the supplement if you dont eat the calories..

Pender

the only thing i dont eat is junk food besides that ill tear into anything

Extreme

Pender, you need to grow up, your asking dumb questions, you don't know anything about training or diet but you want to take "anything" to make you bigger and leaner, your mentality is the type which leads to f*cking yourself up. Why not just go to the nearest steroid dealer you can find and buy a load of gear, I'm quite sure he'll happily take your money and sell you everything you could possibly need to make you big and do long term damage to your health.

You say your pretty new to the game, the best thing you can do is learn about it. Learn about training and diet, you say you want to add about 50lbs by the start of next year, I want to regrow my hair for summer but guess what - IT AINT GONNA HAPPEN!

You need to forget the "I want to be 20 stone before I start to diet, I want to be 17st ripped on stage" attitude bcos it DOESN'T WORK THAT WAY. I was told once "its the steady drip that fills the bucket", the guy was talking about life in general and I've learned that his little saying applies to every walk of life.

To be honest, guys like you frighten me Pender, your liable to f*ck yourself up and then you or your mother ends up on television blaming supplements or gear when in reality your lack of patience, lack of knowledge and lack of life experience fkd you up. The bad thing is that its people like me that end up having the things I want to do safely made harder due to people like you.

Gazz

As harsh and abrupt as Extreme's comment's are,i agree with him.You opitomise the stereotypical 16 year old and confirm that uninformed attitute with statements like "dude ill take anything even if it helps only a lil"!Not good.I will always take young lads at my gym under my wing and help them anyway i can,they are all like you."yeh,whatever","who care's","just do it","don't be shy" and line's like "urgh,i did'nt know that Gazz" are frequent.We were all 16 once and have all been where you are and i think what Extreme's trying to tell you,at the expense of getting hot under the collar,is that bodybuilding invlove's following the most strict of disipline's that only a Jedi Knight can relate too.

The only thing's that "really work" with regard's to your original question,are your knowledge,dicipline,dedication and will to apply all three to the letter.But that said i'm sure everyone here,myself included,will aid and guid you all they can.So post up what you eat and how you train and we'll take it from there.

Pender

do you think this is a good starting plan

Day One – Chest & Back
Bench Press
1 x 20
1 x 12
1 x 10
1 x 8
1 x 6
1 x 4
1 x Total Failure Super Set With Incline Dumbbell Fly
1 x Total Failure

Bent Over Barbell Rows
1 x 20
1 x 12
1 x 10
1 x 8
1 x 6
1 x 4
1 x Total Failure Super Set With Dumbbell Pullovers
1 x Total Failure

Either Abs or Calves (alternate every other day you lift weights)

For Abs:
Leg Raises 20 (at medium pace) (put hands under hips, do not let feet do past your head, do straight up with legs not back over head)
10 sec rest
Leg Raises 15 (at medium pace)
Crunches 20 (at very slow pace – each rep should take 3 seconds)
Fast Ups 10 (at face pace) (knees up at 90 degree angle, hands behind head and rise up and down at 45 degree angle as fast as you can)
(*if this Ab workout gets to easy add more reps and then hanging leg raises)

For Calves:
Standing Calf Raises 3 x 20
Seated Calf Raises 3 x 20

Day Two – Cardio
40 minutes

Day Three – Legs
Squat
1 x 20
1 x 12
1 x 10
1 x 8
1 x 6
1 x 4
1 x Total Failure Super Set With Leg Extensions
1 x Total Failure

Straight Leg Dead Lifts
1 x 20
1 x 12
1 x 10
1 x 8
1 x 6
1 x 4
1 x Total Failure Super Set With Hamstring Curls
1 x Total Failure

Abs or Calves

Day Four – Cardio
40 minutes

Day Five – Shoulders & Arms
Seated Dumbbell Press
1 x 20
1 x 12
1 x 10
1 x 8
1 x 6
1 x 4
1 x Total Failure Super Set With Side Dumbbell Lateral Raises
1 x Total Failure

Lying Barbell Tricep Extensions
1 x 20
1 x 12
1 x 10
1 x 8
1 x 6
1 x 4
1 x Total Failure Super Set With Tricep Pushdowns
1 x Total Failure

Standing Barbell Curls
1 x 20
1 x 12
1 x 10
1 x 8
1 x 6
1 x 4
1 x Total Failure Super Set With Dumbbell Hammer Curls
1 x Total Failure

Abs or Calves

Day Six – Cardio
40 minutes

Day Seven – Back To Day One


and i know im not mentaly like fit but u gotta start some where and this is what i wanna do.

Gazz

Ok so you intend on training seven days straight at a time.When were you thinking of resting?

If that's the way you wish to train routine wise then so be it,you are young with bags of energy i don't see any reason why you can't pull it off if you feel you can do it but without decent rest and lots of high energy food in your diet you will burn out like a birthday candle long before you've acheived anything.

Now post up your diet.

FAT BOY

you will make more gains by programming rest days in your routine .two days on one day off or every other day.
as they say in bodybuilding LESS IS MORE ITS NOT HOW MANY DAYS YOU TRAIN BUT HOW YOU TRAIN .
also looking at your picture you dont realy need to bother with cardio .
as Gazz says you only grow while you are resting not while you are training
post up you dail food intake