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Old 03-08-2007, 12:07 PM   #11 (permalink)
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Interesting... One for Extreme(Doug) to answer I think.
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Zest wrote;

Given that KA is "just" buffered CM, that is CM which has something added to it to increase it's effectiveness (well, not exactly, but kinda), if CM, according to studies, only converts to creatinine at a rate of "less than 1%", and KA's conversion rate is "35% greater conversion of creatine to creatinine than CM", that's 35% of 1%, which is 0.35%, basically about as much as a pi*s in the ocean (i.e.not a lot!).

Zest, I don't understand what you're trying to say here, the paragraph does not make sense. I've posted below results from a study where you will find specific data which was included in the U.S. Patent #6399661 on 4th June 2002, this was whan the patent was granted for Kre-Alkalyn.

Conventional creatine side-effects vs. Patented Kre-Alkalyn (creatinine conversion test results)
Creatine in water - pH 7
Instantanious Conversion once acivated - Yes
Conversion after 15 secs 10%
" " 30 secs 20%
" " 1 min 30%
" " 2 min 40%
" " 3 min 50%
Total Conversion 8.4 minutes

Creatine in fruit juice - pH 3
Instantaneous Conversion once activated - Yes
conversion after 15 seconds 50%
conversion after 30 seconds 90%
conversion after 1 minute 100%
conversion after 2 minutes 100%
conversion after 3 minutes 100%

Total Conversion - 43
Seconds


Creatine fruit flavoured drink mixes - pH 3
Instantaneous Conversion once activated - Yes
conversion after 15 secs 50%
conversion after 30 secs 90%
conversion after 1 min 100%
conversion after 2 min 100%
conversion after 3 min 100%

Total Conversion - 43
seconds





Creatine in protein mixes - pH 7
Instantaneous Conversion once activated - Yes
conversion after 15 secs 10%
conversion after 30 mins 20%
conversion after 1 min 30%
conversion after 2 min 40%
conversion after 3 min 50%

Total Conversion - 8.4
Minutes





Creatine in sports drinks - pH 3
Instantaneous Conversion once activated - Yes
conversion after 50%
conversion after 90%
conversion after 100%
conversion after 100%
conversion after 100%

Total Conversion - 43
seconds



Liquid creatine& "serums" - pH 4
Instantaneous Conversion once activated - Yes
conversion after 15 secs 30%
conversion after 30 secs 40%
conversion after 1 min 50%
conversion after 2 min 70%
conversion after 3 min 77%

Total Conversion - 2.8
Minutes



Kre-AlkalynBuffered Creatine - pH 12
Instantaneous Conversion once activated - No
conversion after 15 secs 0%
conversion after 30 secs 0%
conversion after 1 min 0%
conversion after 2 min 0%
conversion after 3 min 0%

Total Conversion - Never

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