ephedrine

richtries · 05-12-2006, 05:18 PM

what du reckon about this product . . . . . .

http://www.creatinestore.co.uk/produ...x.asp#moreinfo

I thought ephedrine was illegal in this country now? Or is this some crappy herbal replacement?

Cheers guys.

richtries · 05-12-2006, 05:56 PM

Also, is ephedrine suitable for females? If so, what sort of dosages would you recomend? And how much caffeine/aspirin? Heard it mixes well with grapefruit juice aswell, something about keeping open the caffeine receptors. . . . . . how would you go about timing with something like that. I've searched the site for all ephedrine related posts to no-avail.

Cheers again guys.

**Neil R** · 05-12-2006, 08:14 PM

Ephedrine is illegal in this country as is ma huang a herbal derivative. however, so far Sida Cordifollia hasn't made it onto this list (but no doubt will do soon) it is another herbal derivative of ephedrine but has less harsh an effect.
The caffeine content is 450mg of guarana at 22% giving roughly 100mg caffeine & 100mg White willow bark per cap so along with the 125mg of 10% sida a 2 cap serving willgiv you the correct standard dose, altough if you are used to Ephedrine then 3 or 4 caps may be needed. but at around £20 for 100 tabs its not to expensive to give it a try.
If you don't like it, just don't buy it again.

Ephedrine is suitable for females but bear in mind women will need to start with a lower dose as they (generally) have less lean body mass.

Grapefruit juice contains naringinin which helps to clear the caffeine from the receptor sites, helping to keep them open and therefore sensitised for longer. Most people use grapefruit juice when they have a day or two off caffeine, so they need less the next time they have some. For example they may drink coffee through the week, but have a clean out on the weekends, so have a few small glasses of Grapefruit juice on Saturday & Sunday.

***Extreme*** · 05-12-2006, 09:58 PM

Rich, have you had a look at any of the sponsors sites?

Did you know the same Reflex Sida Cordifollia is available from the Better Bodies (www.betterbodies.uk.com) website for £20?

Its worth having a look on not just the Extreme site but on Better Bodies UK and 247 Bodybuilding too as those two have very keen prices and a wide selection of stock.

www.extremenutrition.co.uk
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razg · 05-12-2006, 10:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Neil R

Grapefruit juice contains naringinin which helps to clear the caffeine from the receptor sites, helping to keep them open and therefore sensitised for longer. Most people use grapefruit juice when they have a day or two off caffeine, so they need less the next time they have some. For example they may drink coffee through the week, but have a clean out on the weekends, so have a few small glasses of Grapefruit juice on Saturday & Sunday.

With all due respect this isn't quite right. Naringin operates by inhibition of certain enzymes in the liver - the result is that any drugs metabolized by these enzymes are not eliminated as fast, and have a longer half-life. This is the reason that the pharmacokinetics of various drugs are quite different when consumed with grapefruit juice, and potentially cause problems.

richtries · 11-12-2006, 04:55 PM

Thanks for your help guys, so you think this product will work? And I don't need to try and get hold of the real thing? Its actually for my girlfriend, she's been doing aerobic training, and light weight training, with a good balanced diet, but is struggling to burn any fat.

Cheers guys.

webadmin · 11-12-2006, 05:31 PM

Ephredine is available over the internet but I think it goes out of stock quite often due to demand but if you catch a place that has it in stock you will be ok.

I have been using it for about 1-2 years now on and off with good results.

Kit1 · 07-01-2007, 11:30 PM

I've been using ECA stack for a couple of years but only on training days and I have to take it three hours before training or I'm jumpy for hours afterwards. I get it over the counter in a small b/building shop but if you're not quick it's all gone. Also handy when you go out for a drink to keep your wits about you.

streetlife · 08-01-2007, 11:37 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by webadmin

Ephredine is available over the internet but I think it goes out of stock quite often due to demand but if you catch a place that has it in stock you will be ok.

I have been using it for about 1-2 years now on and off with good results.

Do you ever get any side effects from using Ephredrine?

webadmin · 08-01-2007, 12:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by streetlife

Do you ever get any side effects from using Ephredrine?

When using eph25 I have found it does give you a good feeling after taking it and when I start using it I feel like I have more energy. I haven't really had any side effects from using it although it may vary with different people.

I have been trying a product called grenade which contains the herbal equivilant available from here:
http://www.whey-protein.co.uk/grenade-p-285.html

and EPH 25 being available from here:
http://www.whey-protein.co.uk/eph25-p-316.html

05-12-2006, 05:18 PM	#1 (permalink)
richtries Under Construction Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: essex Posts: 85 Rep Power:	ephedrine what du reckon about this product . . . . . . http://www.creatinestore.co.uk/produ...x.asp#moreinfo I thought ephedrine was illegal in this country now? Or is this some crappy herbal replacement? Cheers guys.

05-12-2006, 08:14 PM	#3 (permalink)
Neil R Moderator Musclechat Icon Join Date: Oct 2006 Posts: 688 Rep Power:	Ephedrine is illegal in this country as is ma huang a herbal derivative. however, so far Sida Cordifollia hasn't made it onto this list (but no doubt will do soon) it is another herbal derivative of ephedrine but has less harsh an effect. The caffeine content is 450mg of guarana at 22% giving roughly 100mg caffeine & 100mg White willow bark per cap so along with the 125mg of 10% sida a 2 cap serving willgiv you the correct standard dose, altough if you are used to Ephedrine then 3 or 4 caps may be needed. but at around £20 for 100 tabs its not to expensive to give it a try. If you don't like it, just don't buy it again. Ephedrine is suitable for females but bear in mind women will need to start with a lower dose as they (generally) have less lean body mass. Grapefruit juice contains naringinin which helps to clear the caffeine from the receptor sites, helping to keep them open and therefore sensitised for longer. Most people use grapefruit juice when they have a day or two off caffeine, so they need less the next time they have some. For example they may drink coffee through the week, but have a clean out on the weekends, so have a few small glasses of Grapefruit juice on Saturday & Sunday. ______________________ APPLIED KNOWLEDGE, IS POWER!!! The real challenge is to be yourself in a world that wants you to be someone else!! www.rippedglutes.net

05-12-2006, 09:58 PM	#4 (permalink)
*Extreme* Super Moderator Super Moderator Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: UK Posts: 1,334 Rep Power:	Rich, have you had a look at any of the sponsors sites? Did you know the same Reflex Sida Cordifollia is available from the Better Bodies (www.betterbodies.uk.com) website for £20? Its worth having a look on not just the Extreme site but on Better Bodies UK and 247 Bodybuilding too as those two have very keen prices and a wide selection of stock. www.extremenutrition.co.uk Musclechat members get 25% off. ______________________ www.extremenutrition.co.uk - 25% OFF FOR ALL MC MEMBERS, discount code MCD25. www.betterbodies.uk.com Seriously cheap sports nutrition! DYNALYNE, the strongest fat burner ever, ONLY £24.95!

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05-12-2006, 05:56 PM	#2 (permalink)
richtries Under Construction Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: essex Posts: 85 Rep Power:	Also, is ephedrine suitable for females? If so, what sort of dosages would you recomend? And how much caffeine/aspirin? Heard it mixes well with grapefruit juice aswell, something about keeping open the caffeine receptors. . . . . . how would you go about timing with something like that. I've searched the site for all ephedrine related posts to no-avail. Cheers again guys.

11-12-2006, 04:55 PM	#6 (permalink)
richtries Under Construction Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: essex Posts: 85 Rep Power:	Thanks for your help guys, so you think this product will work? And I don't need to try and get hold of the real thing? Its actually for my girlfriend, she's been doing aerobic training, and light weight training, with a good balanced diet, but is struggling to burn any fat. Cheers guys.

11-12-2006, 05:31 PM	#7 (permalink)
webadmin Join Date: Dec 2006 Posts: 19 Rep Power:	Ephredine is available over the internet but I think it goes out of stock quite often due to demand but if you catch a place that has it in stock you will be ok. I have been using it for about 1-2 years now on and off with good results.

07-01-2007, 11:30 PM	#8 (permalink)
Kit1 Join Date: Jan 2007 Posts: 41 Rep Power:	I've been using ECA stack for a couple of years but only on training days and I have to take it three hours before training or I'm jumpy for hours afterwards. I get it over the counter in a small b/building shop but if you're not quick it's all gone. Also handy when you go out for a drink to keep your wits about you.