Creatine

jim55 · 28-09-2006, 04:13 PM

Hey, i just received extreme creatine from extreme nutrition. Firstly the order came really fast so i am really pleased with that and i like it how they say the loading phase is uneccesary unlike other companies. So already without trying it i recommend it just for the speed and the way they seem to care about there consumers. Thanks.
But i would like to know what is the best and most effecient thing to mix the creatine with. Can i just add it to my protein powder with water or should i mix it with energy drinks high in glucose?

BigDom · 28-09-2006, 05:39 PM

Hi,

i dont know about other people but i just mixed 5 grams with my morning protein shake and tehn 5 grams with my post work out shake, and it did the trick for me.

BigDom

wigz · 28-09-2006, 07:20 PM

i add 50gm of dextrose post work out

**LeeB** · 29-09-2006, 10:26 AM

for best results your post workout shake should be a combination of whey & high Glycemic Index carbohydrate (dextrose, maltodextrin).. this creates an insulin spike which sucks the nutrinets into the muscle cells...

adding creatine helps the creatine get sucked into the muscle faster.

in morning just have with water or whey.

jim55 · 29-09-2006, 04:24 PM

Where can i get this high Glycemic Index carbohydrate to mix with my creatine. Does it cost a lot?

razg · 29-09-2006, 06:05 PM

I'm going to have to respectfully disagree with anyone who says that insulin has anything to do with creatine. Insulin only deals with one nutrient, and that's glucose. It's arguable that high GI carbs PWO may regenerate muscle glycogen faster, but there's no reason that it's necessary for creatine uptake.

**LeeB** · 30-09-2006, 04:46 PM

the insulin helps get the nutrients into the muscle faster.. to replenish muscle glycogen (energy)... i dont profess to know the ins and outs... but it does help get the ATP (creatine) replenished!

maltodextrin is availabe from www.extremenutrition.co.uk

***Extreme*** · 30-09-2006, 04:50 PM

I'm going to respectfully disagree with you razg.

Creatine is effectively a storage hormone which puts the body into storage mode anf thus makes the body store nutrients more efficiently, vits, mins, protein, fats etc.

Why do you think its advised not to eat fat and carbs together? The carbs cause the insulin release and this causes the fats to be more effectively stored along with the carbs.

I would however say to anyone who can gain fat easily, be wary of using too many simple sugars or you could end up with more than just full looking muscles.

My studies looked at insulin secretion and its effects on the body and I personally added 11lbs in 5 days using creatine and insulin (10iu's 3 times daily with 20g creatine each time). I had worked out if I hit it hard from the tuesday I would look much better for a seminar the following Sunday and not have time to spill over.

It worked a treat, my muscles looked ready to burst and I looked the way I do after a good workout when I'm pumped.

I'm not recommending anyone does this because after cessation of the ins/creatine supplementation the gains disappeared and I did gain fat.

www.extremenutrition.co.uk
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28-09-2006, 04:13 PM	#1 (permalink)
jim55 Under Construction Join Date: Sep 2006 Posts: 19 Rep Power:	Creatine Hey, i just received extreme creatine from extreme nutrition. Firstly the order came really fast so i am really pleased with that and i like it how they say the loading phase is uneccesary unlike other companies. So already without trying it i recommend it just for the speed and the way they seem to care about there consumers. Thanks. But i would like to know what is the best and most effecient thing to mix the creatine with. Can i just add it to my protein powder with water or should i mix it with energy drinks high in glucose?

29-09-2006, 10:26 AM	#4 (permalink)
LeeB Moderator Musclechat Icon Join Date: May 2006 Posts: 1,991 Rep Power:	for best results your post workout shake should be a combination of whey & high Glycemic Index carbohydrate (dextrose, maltodextrin).. this creates an insulin spike which sucks the nutrinets into the muscle cells... adding creatine helps the creatine get sucked into the muscle faster. in morning just have with water or whey. ______________________ If your not a part of the greatest... you got to be the greatest yourself! For the best supplements: www.extremenutrition.co.uk

30-09-2006, 04:46 PM	#7 (permalink)
LeeB Moderator Musclechat Icon Join Date: May 2006 Posts: 1,991 Rep Power:	the insulin helps get the nutrients into the muscle faster.. to replenish muscle glycogen (energy)... i dont profess to know the ins and outs... but it does help get the ATP (creatine) replenished! maltodextrin is availabe from www.extremenutrition.co.uk ______________________ If your not a part of the greatest... you got to be the greatest yourself! For the best supplements: www.extremenutrition.co.uk

30-09-2006, 04:50 PM	#8 (permalink)
*Extreme* Super Moderator Super Moderator Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: UK Posts: 1,349 Rep Power:	I'm going to respectfully disagree with you razg. Creatine is effectively a storage hormone which puts the body into storage mode anf thus makes the body store nutrients more efficiently, vits, mins, protein, fats etc. Why do you think its advised not to eat fat and carbs together? The carbs cause the insulin release and this causes the fats to be more effectively stored along with the carbs. I would however say to anyone who can gain fat easily, be wary of using too many simple sugars or you could end up with more than just full looking muscles. My studies looked at insulin secretion and its effects on the body and I personally added 11lbs in 5 days using creatine and insulin (10iu's 3 times daily with 20g creatine each time). I had worked out if I hit it hard from the tuesday I would look much better for a seminar the following Sunday and not have time to spill over. It worked a treat, my muscles looked ready to burst and I looked the way I do after a good workout when I'm pumped. I'm not recommending anyone does this because after cessation of the ins/creatine supplementation the gains disappeared and I did gain fat. www.extremenutrition.co.uk Musclechats discount supplier. ______________________ www.extremenutrition.co.uk - 25% OFF FOR ALL MC MEMBERS, discount code MCD25. www.betterbodies.uk.com Seriously cheap sports nutrition! DYNALYNE, the strongest fat burner ever, ONLY £24.95!

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28-09-2006, 05:39 PM	#2 (permalink)
BigDom Under Construction Join Date: May 2006 Location: Southampton Posts: 48 Rep Power:	Hi, i dont know about other people but i just mixed 5 grams with my morning protein shake and tehn 5 grams with my post work out shake, and it did the trick for me. BigDom

28-09-2006, 07:20 PM	#3 (permalink)
wigz Making Progress Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Manchester Posts: 429 Rep Power:	i add 50gm of dextrose post work out

29-09-2006, 04:24 PM	#5 (permalink)
jim55 Under Construction Join Date: Sep 2006 Posts: 19 Rep Power:	Where can i get this high Glycemic Index carbohydrate to mix with my creatine. Does it cost a lot?

29-09-2006, 06:05 PM	#6 (permalink)
razg Legend Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Birmingham/Bristol Posts: 886 Rep Power:	I'm going to have to respectfully disagree with anyone who says that insulin has anything to do with creatine. Insulin only deals with one nutrient, and that's glucose. It's arguable that high GI carbs PWO may regenerate muscle glycogen faster, but there's no reason that it's necessary for creatine uptake.