does anyone know any good supplements/growth inhancers

wellhellothere · 21-06-2006, 04:52 PM

hi guys/girls

anyone got any advice or know any good products for building strength and mass ive try a good few but dont seem to be getting anywhere any more creatine doesnt seem to work and tribulus products i just get that extra but in small slow amounts and dont seem to work

thanks any advice help or information would be great

**Bodyworks** · 21-06-2006, 04:56 PM

sorry. had to say it.

FOOD

your body likes it and it works better than anything.

wellhellothere · 21-06-2006, 05:11 PM

lol ok then

my diet and eating pattern are good and calories are well worked out but need something that give you a good gain without the fat intake and excessive calories and reasonably cheap during a bulking programme

Nick500 · 21-06-2006, 05:26 PM

wellhellothere what is your diet and training plan.

wigz · 21-06-2006, 06:20 PM

only one answer and you have already heard it..... FOOD

Sorry i can't be more help mate

***PScarb*** · 21-06-2006, 07:48 PM

if your diet is well worked out and you are training hard then you should put on some decent gains without the fat.

please post up your diet..

wellhellothere · 21-06-2006, 11:14 PM

here goes
MONDAY-CHEST,TRAQPS,LEGS QUADS CALFS, AND ABS
TUESDAY-DELTS,LATS,BICEP
WEDNESDAY-BACK,TRICEPS AND ABS
THURSDAY-LEGS HAMSTRINGS CALFS AND ABS
FRIDAY-CARDIO, SPIRINTS 30 MINS AND ROWING JOGGING FOR A 1HR

DIET=
BREAKFAST- PORRIAGE, FRUIT,RASINS AND NUTS
SNACK- PROTEIN BAR/BOMBS AND TIN OF SALMON OR SARDINES
LUNCH-CHICKEN OR FISH HAND FULL OF PASTA,RICE WITH BOILED EGGS 3-6
SNACK-FRUIT,PROTEIN SHAKE
DINNER-ANY MEAT ,POTATOES,VEG
SNACK-SHAKE AND SANDWICH
I EAT MORE WHEN IM OFF WORK SNACK ETC BUT ITS BASICALLY WHAT I DO DURING THE WEEK WEEKEND I HAVE OFF LOL

chalk · 22-06-2006, 07:55 AM

I think the reasons are the same for the question on your last thread. http://www.musclechat.co.uk/viewtopi...568&highlight=

try some of the advice you got there....Your diet looks ok. However your weight routine looks like you may be overtraining. Possibly too much cardio also.
Try
Mon. Back(inc. lats) & Biceps
Tue. Shoulders (inc traps) & Calves & Abs
wed OFF
Thu. Legs (quads & hamstrings( Inc some deadlifts)
Fri. Chest & Triceps
Sat If you must train, do 30 mins cardio & abs

Keep it simple & don't do too many sets. I aim for max 12 sets per bodypart. You should see gains in size AND strength.

Dinosaur · 22-06-2006, 08:20 AM

Dont think you can ever do enough cardio, but your weight training is way off, Tue - Lats and Wed - Back, i always thought my lats were my back and if this is the case then your working them two days in a row. Mondays routine is very complex... Keep it Stupidly Simple (KISS). Mon - Chest, Bi's.... Tues - Back, tri's.... Wed - DAY OFF Thur - Shoulders, Legs.... Fri - Work on weak body parts like arms or chest, (certainly not shoulders or legs as you worked them Thurs. SAT SUN rest days, Cardio is great as long as you take extra calories to compensate if not then your body will be catabolic (muscle used as protein or energy).

Some people may swop Tue for a complete leg day as this gives your upper body more rest so then Thur would be Back, Tris and Friday would be Shoulders and weak bodypart.

i think ive explained myself there, no doubt some may disagree but then hey thats what this forum is for.

Dino

Nick500 · 22-06-2006, 07:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dinosaur

Dont think you can ever do enough cardio

Hmm... cant say I agree with this. Do cardio to keep fit whilst bulking but if he is aiming to increase muscle mass and strength then OF COURSE its possible to do too much cardio...

21-06-2006, 04:52 PM	#1 (permalink)
wellhellothere Under Construction Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: SOUTH WALES Posts: 18 Rep Power:	does anyone know any good supplements/growth inhancers hi guys/girls anyone got any advice or know any good products for building strength and mass ive try a good few but dont seem to be getting anywhere any more creatine doesnt seem to work and tribulus products i just get that extra but in small slow amounts and dont seem to work thanks any advice help or information would be great

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21-06-2006, 04:56 PM	#2 (permalink)
Bodyworks Moderator Musclechat Icon Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: west yorkshire Posts: 1,011 Rep Power:	sorry. had to say it. FOOD your body likes it and it works better than anything.

21-06-2006, 05:11 PM	#3 (permalink)
wellhellothere Under Construction Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: SOUTH WALES Posts: 18 Rep Power:	lol ok then my diet and eating pattern are good and calories are well worked out but need something that give you a good gain without the fat intake and excessive calories and reasonably cheap during a bulking programme

21-06-2006, 06:20 PM	#5 (permalink)
wigz Making Progress Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Manchester Posts: 429 Rep Power:	only one answer and you have already heard it..... FOOD Sorry i can't be more help mate

21-06-2006, 11:14 PM	#7 (permalink)
wellhellothere Under Construction Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: SOUTH WALES Posts: 18 Rep Power:	here goes MONDAY-CHEST,TRAQPS,LEGS QUADS CALFS, AND ABS TUESDAY-DELTS,LATS,BICEP WEDNESDAY-BACK,TRICEPS AND ABS THURSDAY-LEGS HAMSTRINGS CALFS AND ABS FRIDAY-CARDIO, SPIRINTS 30 MINS AND ROWING JOGGING FOR A 1HR DIET= BREAKFAST- PORRIAGE, FRUIT,RASINS AND NUTS SNACK- PROTEIN BAR/BOMBS AND TIN OF SALMON OR SARDINES LUNCH-CHICKEN OR FISH HAND FULL OF PASTA,RICE WITH BOILED EGGS 3-6 SNACK-FRUIT,PROTEIN SHAKE DINNER-ANY MEAT ,POTATOES,VEG SNACK-SHAKE AND SANDWICH I EAT MORE WHEN IM OFF WORK SNACK ETC BUT ITS BASICALLY WHAT I DO DURING THE WEEK WEEKEND I HAVE OFF LOL

22-06-2006, 07:55 AM	#8 (permalink)
chalk Making Progress Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Spain Posts: 262 Rep Power:	I think the reasons are the same for the question on your last thread. http://www.musclechat.co.uk/viewtopi...568&highlight= try some of the advice you got there....Your diet looks ok. However your weight routine looks like you may be overtraining. Possibly too much cardio also. Try Mon. Back(inc. lats) & Biceps Tue. Shoulders (inc traps) & Calves & Abs wed OFF Thu. Legs (quads & hamstrings( Inc some deadlifts) Fri. Chest & Triceps Sat If you must train, do 30 mins cardio & abs Keep it simple & don't do too many sets. I aim for max 12 sets per bodypart. You should see gains in size AND strength.

22-06-2006, 08:20 AM	#9 (permalink)
Dinosaur Join Date: May 2006 Posts: 62 Rep Power:	Dont think you can ever do enough cardio, but your weight training is way off, Tue - Lats and Wed - Back, i always thought my lats were my back and if this is the case then your working them two days in a row. Mondays routine is very complex... Keep it Stupidly Simple (KISS). Mon - Chest, Bi's.... Tues - Back, tri's.... Wed - DAY OFF Thur - Shoulders, Legs.... Fri - Work on weak body parts like arms or chest, (certainly not shoulders or legs as you worked them Thurs. SAT SUN rest days, Cardio is great as long as you take extra calories to compensate if not then your body will be catabolic (muscle used as protein or energy). Some people may swop Tue for a complete leg day as this gives your upper body more rest so then Thur would be Back, Tris and Friday would be Shoulders and weak bodypart. i think ive explained myself there, no doubt some may disagree but then hey thats what this forum is for. Dino