does anyone know any good supplements/growth inhancers

Dinosaur · 23-06-2006, 12:26 PM

Nick please can you reconsider your view as it seems very logical to me, as long as you take in extra calories to compensate then your OK. It makes sence cardio burns calories so if you dont want to slim down then just take extra calories as to compensate for the cardio.

Cardio = loss of calories ... soluction = replace lost calories.

Dino

**LeeB** · 23-06-2006, 12:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Dinosaur

Nick please can you reconsider your view as it seems very logical to me, as long as you take in extra calories to compensate then your OK. It makes sence cardio burns calories so if you dont want to slim down then just take extra calories as to compensate for the cardio.

Cardio = loss of calories ... soluction = replace lost calories.

Dino

the theory is great.. and on paper i totally agree dino... however in real life... how many calories are actually being worked off in each cardio session? its really not easy to know this... so how can you adjust calories accordingly? will someone be giving their body enough rest and recuperation time to grow if they are doing lots of cardio?

from a nutritional standpoint your spot on... but there are other factors which may mean someone is doing too much cardio to grow... overtraining for one.... cardio adds to the stress on the body...

wellhellothere · 23-06-2006, 03:20 PM

I PLAY RUGBY AS WELL SO NEED TO KEEP REASONABLY FIT BUT CANT AFFORD TO LOSS THE MASS/BULK . HAVE YOU SEEN THE SIZE OF SOME OF THE PLAYERS OUT THE LOL

wellhellothere · 23-06-2006, 04:28 PM

Sorry about the capitals, left caps lock on whoops

Nick500 · 24-06-2006, 03:27 AM

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Originally Posted by LeeB

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Originally Posted by Dinosaur

Nick please can you reconsider your view as it seems very logical to me, as long as you take in extra calories to compensate then your OK. It makes sence cardio burns calories so if you dont want to slim down then just take extra calories as to compensate for the cardio.

Cardio = loss of calories ... soluction = replace lost calories.

Dino

the theory is great.. and on paper i totally agree dino... however in real life... how many calories are actually being worked off in each cardio session? its really not easy to know this... so how can you adjust calories accordingly? will someone be giving their body enough rest and recuperation time to grow if they are doing lots of cardio?

from a nutritional standpoint your spot on... but there are other factors which may mean someone is doing too much cardio to grow... overtraining for one.... cardio adds to the stress on the body...

also, more importantly, lets consider the amount of cortisol (muscle wasting hormone) that is produced during cardio... If you do less cardio, then less cortisol will be produced, its quite simple...

wigz · 24-06-2006, 10:50 AM

playing rugby cardio is needed, i go for short sprints and intense sessioss on the rower and make sure you keep the calories up, you can't play rugby without a decent level of fittness,
i stopped doing extra cardio last year and the game started to pass me by, what position do you play?

wellhellothere · 24-06-2006, 01:58 PM

i play centre or flanker i do lots of rowing and im in pretty good shape i really enjoy it

wellhellothere · 24-06-2006, 02:03 PM

i just find it hard to put mass on without the fat

**LeeB** · 24-06-2006, 03:20 PM

id suggest a good BCAA product before any cardio training for you mate... got to ensure your not wasting muscle! maybe glutamine with it too! any opinions on this guys?

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23-06-2006, 12:26 PM	#11 (permalink)
Dinosaur Join Date: May 2006 Posts: 62 Rep Power:	Nick please can you reconsider your view as it seems very logical to me, as long as you take in extra calories to compensate then your OK. It makes sence cardio burns calories so if you dont want to slim down then just take extra calories as to compensate for the cardio. Cardio = loss of calories ... soluction = replace lost calories. Dino

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wellhellothere Under Construction Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: SOUTH WALES Posts: 18 Rep Power:	I PLAY RUGBY AS WELL SO NEED TO KEEP REASONABLY FIT BUT CANT AFFORD TO LOSS THE MASS/BULK . HAVE YOU SEEN THE SIZE OF SOME OF THE PLAYERS OUT THE LOL

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wellhellothere Under Construction Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: SOUTH WALES Posts: 18 Rep Power:	Sorry about the capitals, left caps lock on whoops

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wigz Making Progress Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Manchester Posts: 430 Rep Power:	playing rugby cardio is needed, i go for short sprints and intense sessioss on the rower and make sure you keep the calories up, you can't play rugby without a decent level of fittness, i stopped doing extra cardio last year and the game started to pass me by, what position do you play?

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wellhellothere Under Construction Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: SOUTH WALES Posts: 18 Rep Power:	i play centre or flanker i do lots of rowing and im in pretty good shape i really enjoy it

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wellhellothere Under Construction Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: SOUTH WALES Posts: 18 Rep Power:	i just find it hard to put mass on without the fat