BCAA and EAA supplementation

Nick500 · 28-03-2006, 11:26 AM

I have bought 1KG of BCAAs and 1KG of EAAs. I was wondering when you thought was the best time to be taking these.

Currently I plan to take BCAAs throughout the day in 'inbetween' period between eating and training, throughout training and first thing in the morning on an empty stomach. Also perhaps if I wake up in the middle of the night. So 3 - 5 grams, 6 - 8 times a day.

I was planning to take a 5 gram dose of EAAs before and after training, and then in the middle of the night when I wake up.

I'm not afraid to use a lot of these supplements and my aim is to avoid catabolism at all costs whilst cutting. Money isn't really an issue (before anybody suggests it, no i'm not going to consider buying AAS if money isn't an issue to use whilst cutting

)

Obviously, I already have a solid protein routine in terms of diet and whey supplementation, i will be having 2 scoops of whey protein isolate post workout with oats, and 1/2 a scoop with 20 grams dextrose when i finish weights and go to cardio for 30 minutes. Taken alongside the bcaas/eaas of course.

Any thoughts on the best times to take BCAAs and EAAs?

Nick

razg · 28-03-2006, 12:08 PM

The way I look at it is like this. When you eat protein, following hydrolization in the stomach (digestion), the amino acids eventually make their way into your bloodstream, and can be used by tissues such as skeletal muscle, or organs like the liver.

You take amino acids either when you want to push your blood aminos way above baseline (i.e. before or during a hard workout, or first thing in the morning, or during the night, etc), or at a time when there is a window of opportunity (post-workout).

In terms of BCAAs vs EAAs, I consider BCAAs only to really be anti-catabolic, whereas EAAs are more anabolic, as they contain a wider range of requirements. I would use BCAAs as your generic anti-catabolic aid, and EAAs at times when you want a bit of anabolic support (think post workout).

Nick500 · 28-03-2006, 12:10 PM

Solid answer.

i think i will continue taking bcaas all the time, then EAAs before and after workout.

Cheers

Nick

Young Gun · 28-03-2006, 02:00 PM

If money is no object why don't you use AAS to cut?

BCAA's are the only supp proven to have an anti - catabolic effect (some say glutamine and pscarb says he gets good results but the science isn't there IMO) Raz has given a good protocol there. I really would make sure that your supps are by your bed ready quality sleep is way more important than eating during sleep as long as you eat first thing and you eat steadily towards bedtime your nitrogen balance shouldn't become negative.

razg · 28-03-2006, 02:21 PM

Definately agreed with regards to sleep - another 5g of BCAAs isn't going to make up for a reduction in GH/Test if you sleep badly.

Nick500 · 28-03-2006, 02:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Young Gun

If money is no object why don't you use AAS to cut?

Thats why i said ''Money isn't really an issue (before anybody suggests it, no i'm not going to consider buying AAS if money isn't an issue to use whilst cutting Smile) '' - i.e. i'm not considering using AAS, its not a money issue i just don't want to use them.

You guys don't understand my sleep patterns, its normal for me to wake up 10 or more times every night, 2 of those times I will probably go to the toilet - so its easy to take some bcaas.

Nick

Young Gun · 28-03-2006, 04:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by nick500

Quote:

Originally Posted by Young Gun

If money is no object why don't you use AAS to cut?

Thats why i said ''Money isn't really an issue (before anybody suggests it, no i'm not going to consider buying AAS if money isn't an issue to use whilst cutting Smile) '' - i.e. i'm not considering using AAS, its not a money issue i just don't want to use them.

I know you jackass I was being sarcastic because you had said exactly that.

That must suck waking up that much must be so detrimental to your gains. Try sleeping tablets

28-03-2006, 11:26 AM	#1 (permalink)
Nick500 Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Bristol Posts: 3,232 Rep Power:	BCAA and EAA supplementation I have bought 1KG of BCAAs and 1KG of EAAs. I was wondering when you thought was the best time to be taking these. Currently I plan to take BCAAs throughout the day in 'inbetween' period between eating and training, throughout training and first thing in the morning on an empty stomach. Also perhaps if I wake up in the middle of the night. So 3 - 5 grams, 6 - 8 times a day. I was planning to take a 5 gram dose of EAAs before and after training, and then in the middle of the night when I wake up. I'm not afraid to use a lot of these supplements and my aim is to avoid catabolism at all costs whilst cutting. Money isn't really an issue (before anybody suggests it, no i'm not going to consider buying AAS if money isn't an issue to use whilst cutting ) Obviously, I already have a solid protein routine in terms of diet and whey supplementation, i will be having 2 scoops of whey protein isolate post workout with oats, and 1/2 a scoop with 20 grams dextrose when i finish weights and go to cardio for 30 minutes. Taken alongside the bcaas/eaas of course. Any thoughts on the best times to take BCAAs and EAAs? Nick ______________________ - Obsession is what lazy people call dedication -

28-03-2006, 12:10 PM	#3 (permalink)
Nick500 Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Bristol Posts: 3,232 Rep Power:	Solid answer. i think i will continue taking bcaas all the time, then EAAs before and after workout. Cheers Nick ______________________ - Obsession is what lazy people call dedication -

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28-03-2006, 12:08 PM	#2 (permalink)
razg Legend Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Birmingham/Bristol Posts: 887 Rep Power:	The way I look at it is like this. When you eat protein, following hydrolization in the stomach (digestion), the amino acids eventually make their way into your bloodstream, and can be used by tissues such as skeletal muscle, or organs like the liver. You take amino acids either when you want to push your blood aminos way above baseline (i.e. before or during a hard workout, or first thing in the morning, or during the night, etc), or at a time when there is a window of opportunity (post-workout). In terms of BCAAs vs EAAs, I consider BCAAs only to really be anti-catabolic, whereas EAAs are more anabolic, as they contain a wider range of requirements. I would use BCAAs as your generic anti-catabolic aid, and EAAs at times when you want a bit of anabolic support (think post workout).

28-03-2006, 02:00 PM	#4 (permalink)
Young Gun Illuminati Join Date: Apr 2005 Posts: 1,539 Rep Power:	If money is no object why don't you use AAS to cut? BCAA's are the only supp proven to have an anti - catabolic effect (some say glutamine and pscarb says he gets good results but the science isn't there IMO) Raz has given a good protocol there. I really would make sure that your supps are by your bed ready quality sleep is way more important than eating during sleep as long as you eat first thing and you eat steadily towards bedtime your nitrogen balance shouldn't become negative.

28-03-2006, 02:21 PM	#5 (permalink)
razg Legend Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Birmingham/Bristol Posts: 887 Rep Power:	Definately agreed with regards to sleep - another 5g of BCAAs isn't going to make up for a reduction in GH/Test if you sleep badly.