liver protection

razg · 01-01-2006, 05:38 PM

Steve, correct me if i'm wrong, but you've run both M1T and Superdrol fairly recently? Both of these are probably the culprits of your bad liver values - excessive protein would be an issue for your kidneys, not liver.

I'd follow these guys advice on detox stuff, as well as supplementing NAC, which IMO is highly underrated. Cutting saturated fats from your diet will also help the liver, as it has to deal with those - primarily though, it's just time - your liver will fix itsself if you allow it to.

Anonymous · 01-01-2006, 08:11 PM

cheers for the help guys,

i bought milk thistle which i,m using at the moment, got 3 for the price of 2 at discount supplements.

still waiting for my liv 52 to come, so will be taking this atraight away when it comes,

will also check out that stuff in boots, i,ve completely laid off protein for a while, i have drank a little over the holidays which is bad, but couldnt help it.

no you are quite right razg, since taking these i have just been banging in the food and eating lots.

i am getting them checked again about end of january, so will see how it goes on the supps.

cheers chaps

steve

Andy1981iron · 01-01-2006, 09:16 PM

Yes most of the pro-hormones appear to be very liver toxic.

Milk thistle is very cheap so easily acquired for little outlay.

Young Gun · 01-01-2006, 09:43 PM

Disagree with Raz sorry dude

Glutathione is composed of the three amino acids: cysteine, glutamine and glycine. Glutamine and glycine are fairly common in the body; sometimes we can run a little short of cysteine.

However NAC (N-Acetyl-l-Cysteine) is a waste if using high amounts of whey. They both accomplish the same thing which is provide a cysteine to boost glutathione (whey does a better job at trasporting the cysteine intracellularly anyway)

If you want something synergistic to whey use R-ALA instead. Although actually considering the fact you aren't taking any whey it may be a good idea.

Plus quite a few people disagree with me

http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showthread.php?t=144670
http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showpo...1&postcount=15

funbos · 01-01-2006, 09:59 PM

steve maybe it will be helpfull for You

http://www.musclechat.co.uk/viewtopic.php?t=3901

Nidge · 02-01-2006, 06:33 AM

I never thought Protien could cause your liver to go haywire? You learn something new everyday.

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01-01-2006, 05:38 PM	#11 (permalink)
razg Legend Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Birmingham/Bristol Posts: 887 Rep Power:	Steve, correct me if i'm wrong, but you've run both M1T and Superdrol fairly recently? Both of these are probably the culprits of your bad liver values - excessive protein would be an issue for your kidneys, not liver. I'd follow these guys advice on detox stuff, as well as supplementing NAC, which IMO is highly underrated. Cutting saturated fats from your diet will also help the liver, as it has to deal with those - primarily though, it's just time - your liver will fix itsself if you allow it to.

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Anonymous Join Date: Dec 2003 Posts: 0 Rep Power:	cheers for the help guys, i bought milk thistle which i,m using at the moment, got 3 for the price of 2 at discount supplements. still waiting for my liv 52 to come, so will be taking this atraight away when it comes, will also check out that stuff in boots, i,ve completely laid off protein for a while, i have drank a little over the holidays which is bad, but couldnt help it. no you are quite right razg, since taking these i have just been banging in the food and eating lots. i am getting them checked again about end of january, so will see how it goes on the supps. cheers chaps steve

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Andy1981iron Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Hull Posts: 833 Rep Power:	Yes most of the pro-hormones appear to be very liver toxic. Milk thistle is very cheap so easily acquired for little outlay.

01-01-2006, 09:43 PM	#14 (permalink)
Young Gun Illuminati Join Date: Apr 2005 Posts: 1,539 Rep Power:	Disagree with Raz sorry dude Glutathione is composed of the three amino acids: cysteine, glutamine and glycine. Glutamine and glycine are fairly common in the body; sometimes we can run a little short of cysteine. However NAC (N-Acetyl-l-Cysteine) is a waste if using high amounts of whey. They both accomplish the same thing which is provide a cysteine to boost glutathione (whey does a better job at trasporting the cysteine intracellularly anyway) If you want something synergistic to whey use R-ALA instead. Although actually considering the fact you aren't taking any whey it may be a good idea. Plus quite a few people disagree with me http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showthread.php?t=144670 http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showpo...1&postcount=15

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funbos Making Progress Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: A hell of a place to make my fortune. Posts: 226 Rep Power:	steve maybe it will be helpfull for You http://www.musclechat.co.uk/viewtopic.php?t=3901