the shake i customised from my protein, is it ok

divie · 26-10-2005, 05:20 PM

Ive got a shake from myprotien, you can customise your shakes ie add what ingrediants you want, every ingrediant prices differ.

Can anyone take a look on how i customised my shake and advise if it would be ok to take as a meal replacement on waking, PWO and before bed? the later in milk.

I wanted to keep it simple and avoid having little bits of everything so i avoided adding creatine, glutamine and stuff as the customiser works in percentages ie if you start adding 5% creatine and 5% glutamine before you know it your only have 10% carbs and 10%% whey protein.

The shake consists of :-
25% whey protien concentrate 80(nz)
50% maltodextrin
15% milk protein concentrate
10% activated barley

with no flavouring nor sweetner as you got to pay extra for that.

cheers

Young Gun · 26-10-2005, 05:28 PM

The shake doesnt really serve 1 purpose. You should only use simple sugars ie maltodextrin and dextrose PWO. Dextrose is the better 1 of the two anyway. Also the ratio of protein should always be similar to or higher than the simple sugars for most people unless this doesnt add excess bodyfat or your really going for bulk.

As a summary upon waking probably not. Simple sugars not a good idea these are only used when glycogen levels are depleted.

Before bed 100% no no, no sugar b4 bed

PWO use dextrose and whey keep it simple. Fast absorbing whey and dextrose

razg · 26-10-2005, 06:16 PM

In all honesty divie, its terrible.

MRP, PWO, and before bed are TOTALLY different goals.

MRP: you want something slow digesting and low GI - ie milk/egg/casein protein + oats and some good fats (nick's shake works well).

PWO: you want maximum absorbtion rate, ie whey protein isolate + dextrose.

Before bed: you want something like casein+whey, I believe redspy made a post which detailed exactly what you need.

No offense, but an all purpose shake is pretty optimistic. Keep note for next time.

Young Gun · 26-10-2005, 06:24 PM

agreed, was just trying to put this nicely.

divie · 26-10-2005, 06:26 PM

Whats wrong with taking this shake as a pwo though, i thaught maltdextrin(spelling) was a fast digesting and yes im bulking.

Young Gun · 26-10-2005, 06:28 PM

Not really possible, just buy some dextrose and whey from bulkpowders which is cheap as shit and eat food for the rest.

Comando Tom · 26-10-2005, 06:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by razg

Before bed: you want something like casein+whey, I believe redspy made a post which detailed exactly what you need.

Milk Protein is what redspy was talking about.

Have you got this mix yet? If not you might be able to cancel and rethink it.

Id reconmend a mix of Whey, Milk, Egg and Oats(50%).

Any reason you chose activated barley? It quite epensive.

divie · 26-10-2005, 06:36 PM

Shit ive baught 5 kilos! so is it no good at all?I thought barley was slow digesting carbs, maltdextrin was fast digesting good for POW and milk protein slow and whey concentrate fast digesting.I guess what your saying is you cant have both?.PWO is my main use will it be good enougth for use then and what exactly is wrong with taking it in the morning and before bed, ps im bulking.
Cheers though guys ill check with you on my next order but is there any use for it?.

Stu21Ldn · 26-10-2005, 07:09 PM

It aint actually that bad mate but i would just use it PWO. Too much simple sugars to use before bed.

divie · 26-10-2005, 07:45 PM

Will it be digested quickly enougth for PWO though and does it contain enougth protein and carb for pwo?.

26-10-2005, 05:20 PM	#1 (permalink)
divie Making Progress Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: somerset Posts: 436 Rep Power:	the shake i customised from my protein, is it ok Ive got a shake from myprotien, you can customise your shakes ie add what ingrediants you want, every ingrediant prices differ. Can anyone take a look on how i customised my shake and advise if it would be ok to take as a meal replacement on waking, PWO and before bed? the later in milk. I wanted to keep it simple and avoid having little bits of everything so i avoided adding creatine, glutamine and stuff as the customiser works in percentages ie if you start adding 5% creatine and 5% glutamine before you know it your only have 10% carbs and 10%% whey protein. The shake consists of :- 25% whey protien concentrate 80(nz) 50% maltodextrin 15% milk protein concentrate 10% activated barley with no flavouring nor sweetner as you got to pay extra for that. cheers

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26-10-2005, 05:28 PM	#2 (permalink)
Young Gun Illuminati Join Date: Apr 2005 Posts: 1,539 Rep Power:	The shake doesnt really serve 1 purpose. You should only use simple sugars ie maltodextrin and dextrose PWO. Dextrose is the better 1 of the two anyway. Also the ratio of protein should always be similar to or higher than the simple sugars for most people unless this doesnt add excess bodyfat or your really going for bulk. As a summary upon waking probably not. Simple sugars not a good idea these are only used when glycogen levels are depleted. Before bed 100% no no, no sugar b4 bed PWO use dextrose and whey keep it simple. Fast absorbing whey and dextrose

26-10-2005, 06:16 PM	#3 (permalink)
razg Legend Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Birmingham/Bristol Posts: 886 Rep Power:	In all honesty divie, its terrible. MRP, PWO, and before bed are TOTALLY different goals. MRP: you want something slow digesting and low GI - ie milk/egg/casein protein + oats and some good fats (nick's shake works well). PWO: you want maximum absorbtion rate, ie whey protein isolate + dextrose. Before bed: you want something like casein+whey, I believe redspy made a post which detailed exactly what you need. No offense, but an all purpose shake is pretty optimistic. Keep note for next time.

26-10-2005, 06:24 PM	#4 (permalink)
Young Gun Illuminati Join Date: Apr 2005 Posts: 1,539 Rep Power:	agreed, was just trying to put this nicely.

26-10-2005, 06:26 PM	#5 (permalink)
divie Making Progress Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: somerset Posts: 436 Rep Power:	Whats wrong with taking this shake as a pwo though, i thaught maltdextrin(spelling) was a fast digesting and yes im bulking.

26-10-2005, 06:28 PM	#6 (permalink)
Young Gun Illuminati Join Date: Apr 2005 Posts: 1,539 Rep Power:	Not really possible, just buy some dextrose and whey from bulkpowders which is cheap as shit and eat food for the rest.

26-10-2005, 06:36 PM	#8 (permalink)
divie Making Progress Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: somerset Posts: 436 Rep Power:	Shit ive baught 5 kilos! so is it no good at all?I thought barley was slow digesting carbs, maltdextrin was fast digesting good for POW and milk protein slow and whey concentrate fast digesting.I guess what your saying is you cant have both?.PWO is my main use will it be good enougth for use then and what exactly is wrong with taking it in the morning and before bed, ps im bulking. Cheers though guys ill check with you on my next order but is there any use for it?.

26-10-2005, 07:09 PM	#9 (permalink)
Stu21Ldn Join Date: Mar 2005 Posts: 721 Rep Power:	It aint actually that bad mate but i would just use it PWO. Too much simple sugars to use before bed.

26-10-2005, 07:45 PM	#10 (permalink)
divie Making Progress Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: somerset Posts: 436 Rep Power:	Will it be digested quickly enougth for PWO though and does it contain enougth protein and carb for pwo?.