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Old 25-09-2004, 05:31 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Default Aspartame fact or fiction?

Acording to this site....

http://urbanlegends.about.com/library/blasp.htm

:? Comments anyone??

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Old 25-09-2004, 05:44 PM   #2 (permalink)
 
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ive heard its ment to cause cancer.

but i,m not 100% on it
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Old 25-09-2004, 06:09 PM   #3 (permalink)
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Default Interesting!!

Check the site out Steve, make sure you go through to page 2
A Laundry List of Maladies ...it seems that "aspartame causes eveything"..

Then page 3....
The U.K. Food Standards Agency also deems aspartame safe ...

On Jan. 12, 1999 the Multiple Sclerosis Foundation posted its own rebuttal of the aspartame rumors...

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Old 26-09-2004, 11:02 PM   #4 (permalink)
 
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if you ate shovel loads of the stuff i suppose it may do you some harm some way.
same with anything really.....
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Old 26-09-2004, 11:41 PM   #5 (permalink)
 
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In lab rats it was shown to cause perforations in brain tissue when given in larger amounts, amounts which are I belieive unrealistic for humans to be able to consume.

In certain countries there are restrictions on aspartame already which I believe will follow into the UK eventually. Extreme Nutrition has already begun changing Extreme Whey away from aspartame to sucralose which is sugar with the carbs removed, we are also increasing the protein content to 70% and NOT increasing the price.
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Old 27-09-2004, 05:22 PM   #6 (permalink)
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hey a doctor told me its a load of crap that its just all made up and specutated too much

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Old 27-09-2004, 09:59 PM   #7 (permalink)
 
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That wouldn't be the same one who says steroids cause cancer, heart disease, impotence and turn guys into rapists, murderers and gangsters? Is that the doctor who says weightlifting is bad for you and only advises cardio?

GP's are people who know a little about a lot (alegedly), they are not specialists on anything. There is too much smoke for there not to be any fire.

We were not told anything about BSE for a long time bcos the government eventually had to, the govmt looks after the food industry bcos of the revenue it brings in. I believe eventually someone will open the box and the truth will escape.
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A $350 million class action lawsuit was filed on September 15, 2004 in United States District Court in San Francisco, California, case no: C 04 3872. This class action racketeering (RICO) lawsuit was filed against the NutraSweet Corporation, American Diabetes Association, Dr. Robert H. Moser and John Does 1-50. Plaintiffs maintain that this lawsuit will prove how deadly the chemical sweetener aspartame is when consumed by humans.

Contained in the lawsuit is the key role played by current Secretary of Defense, Donald Rumsfeld in helping to get aspartame pushed through the FDA.

Back in the 1980s, Rumsfeld was the President and CEO of Searle who originally owned the patent on aspartame. Plaintiffs maintain that Rumsfeld used his political muscle to get aspartame approved by the FDA despite objections of many FDA health researchers and negative studies.

According to spokesman attorney Britt Groom from Idaho, this lawsuit was filed on behalf of a Mr. Joe Bellon of Concord, California. Groom says a press conference is scheduled for Thursday, September 16, 2004, 11:00 AM at the Sheraton Grand Hotel, 1230 J Street, Sacramento, California. At the press conference, details of the lawsuit will be discussed.

The lawsuit contains the following counts:

1. R.I.C.O. (racketeering charges)
2. Unfair Competition
3. False Advertising
4. Consumer Remedies Act
5. Fraud
6. Breach of Warranty
7. Breach of Merchantability
8. Filed as a Class Action representing the People as a whole and Joe Bellon's personal injuries as well.

According to the press release issued on this RICO lawsuit: "On or about September 8, 2004 an affidavit was signed describing the initial third world studies and the health hazards of aspartame.

These studies conducted in 1983/84 by the J.D. Searle Company were translated to English from Spanish by a translator in 1984. The "double blind" studies showed conclusive evidence that aspartame caused severe health problems and even death to the exposed study group. According to the Affidavit, the doctor directing the studies has been missing since the approval of aspartame in 1984. The affidavit also describes how the affiant was directed by J.D. Searle officials to destroy all records of the studies - including filed notes and/or translations - possessed by the affiant. The affiant describes in detail how the translations were forwarded upon completion to J.D. Searle corporate offices in Illinois."

This isn't the first lawsuit filed alleging that aspartame is hazardous to the health of humans. The National Justice League filed three other lawsuit on April 26, 2004, in three separate California courts. The defendants in those lawsuits number twelve and all produce or use the artificial sweetener aspartame as a sugar substitute in their products. Defendants in those lawsuits include Coca-Cola, PepsiCo, Bayer Corp., the Dannon Company, William Wrigley Jr. Company, Walmart, ConAgra Foods, Wyeth, Inc., The NutraSweet Company, and Altria Corp. (parent company of Kraft Foods and Philip Morris).

This lawsuit charges the defendants engaged in unlawful acts of "knowingly and intentionally using the neurotoxic Aspartame as a sugar substitute in the manufacture of Equal, while knowing that exposure to Aspartame causes among other diseases/symptoms:
abdominal pain, arthritis, asthma, brain cancer, breathing difficulties, burning eyes or throat, burning urination, chest pains, chronic cough, chronic fatigue, death, depression, diarrhea, headaches/migraines, hearing loss, heart palpitations, hives (urticaria), hypertension, impotency and sexual problems, memory loss, menstrual problems or changes, nausea or vomiting, slurring of speech, tremors, tinnitus, vertigo and/or vision loss." The lawsuit also states, "Further, Aspartame disease mimics symptoms or worsens the following diseases: Fibromyalgia, Arthritis, Multiple Sclerosis, Parkinson's Disease, Lupus, Diabetes and diabetic complications, Epilepsy, Alzheimer's Disease, birth defects, Chronic Fatigue Syndrome, Lymphoma, Lyme Disease, Attention Deficit Disorder (ADD), Panic Disorder, Depression and other psychological disorders."

Further allegations include, "G.D. Searle denied knowledge of/or involvement with the initiation, design or performance of the study. Yet, the false results were submitted to the FDA like the rest of the 150 G.D. Searle studies (on aspartame and other products), bearing a Searle Pathology-Toxicology project number. Both Dr.Waisman and G.D.Searle were responsible for the study design. A number of false statements were made by G.D. Searle, including that reported the animals were unavailable for purchase for autopsy after the termination of the study."

Defendants in this lawsuit continue to maintain that aspartame is safe for consumption. Aspartame is found in more than 5,000 food products and all diet soft drinks sold in the United States.
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Extreme Nutrition has already begun changing Extreme Whey away from aspartame to sucralose ....
Nothing directed at you extreme, just some mre cr_p from the scare mongers (we DO use aspartame in our whey)..check this out..

"The manufacturer claims that the chlorine added to sucralose is similar to the chlorine atom in the salt (NaCl) molecule. That is not the case. Sucralose may be more like ingesting tiny amounts of chlorinated pesticides, but we will never know without long-term, independent human research.
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"While it is unlikely that sucralose is as toxic as the poisoning people are experiencing from Monsanto's aspartame, it is clear from the hazards seen in pre-approval research and from its chemical structure that years or decades of use may contribute to serious chronic immunological or neurological disorders."

blah blah....cant win can we???

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You have to be careful what you read on the internet. However that said when you consume lots of protein MRP drinks it's probably wise to be cautious. What gets me is these companies advertising products that are aspartame free, but have acesulfame K in - according to papers on the internet this stuff is just as bad.

I have recently switched to LA Muscle LA Whey - no artificial additives including sweetners, colouring etc etc. It's not cheap stuff but for the sake of an extra 10 i think it is worth it. Also provides 48g protein per shake.
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