Need advice!

DanSM · 13-09-2004, 03:43 AM

ok im not a body builder or anything close, im one of those "lucky" people who can eat as much as they want and never gain weight

right now im quite underweight for my hight / age and i need some advice on what supplements to take. from what i can see there are too main types based on either protien or caleries. can anyone tell me which type is the best for someone whos already underweight and wants to bulk up pretty fast?

mutley · 13-09-2004, 08:24 AM

Hi Dan,

You're like me and many other's, known as ectomorph's, we find it hard to put on weight.

A good start would be to post your diet up on the board so people can comment.

As a basic rule of thumb, per day

try and hit 3000 calories to start

1-2 grms protein per pound of bodyweight - Tuna and Chicken seem to be the most popular sources, as they are low in fat.

4 grms carbs per pound of bodyweight - stick to quality carbs, both complex and simple. Try and draw these foods from fruit and veg, not chocolate etc. - For people who find it hard to put on weight, you may need to increase your carbs beyond this. I do, otherwise no gain.

other MAJOR factors I can think of at the moment (still 1/2 asleep)

break your meals up - have 6 - 8 smaller per day. a little one before bed so you're not fasting for too long

watch the stress. not too much beer. sleep well and long.

As for the training, you need to work SERIOUSLY HARD to get results. You're best bet might be to find a gym buddy to point you in the right direction.

good luck mate

mutley · 13-09-2004, 08:28 AM

forgot to say - check the old threads out on the diet and training forums

themule · 13-09-2004, 11:12 AM

Hi Dan, welcome to the board, as mutley says, post up your current diet, and what sort of goals you have, regarding how much weight do you wish to put on, let us know mate, youll get plenty of help here.

Dave.

DanSM · 13-09-2004, 07:35 PM

well im not exactly sure how to put my diet up, ive never really measured it before. i eat quite a lot of meat, id guess about 3 portions a day, at least 1-2 pieces of fruit a day and i never eat large portions. i only really have 1 proper meal a day then just snack the rest of the time. i could give u a list of the snacks id eat on an average day but itd be pretty long lol. as for training, i cant stand gyms, i normally just workout at home for about 20 minutes a day but even thats getting hard to stick to, my biggest problem is i have weird joints that keep clicking and getting stiff, especially in my shoulders. ive been thinking about getting some creatine from the healthstore but i think it might just be for people who work out like 2 hours a day. any ideas?

Anonymous · 13-09-2004, 10:26 PM

If you don't train and eat to get bigger the likleyhood is you will eventually get fat.

If you are training at home for 20 mins the likleyhood is its not hard enough. You appear to have no motivation so you need a training partner, and you need to join a gym where hopefully your ego will kick in and you will want people to see you get stronger and subsequently get bigger.

You should forget creatine, you need to decide what you want in life, a good physique won't happen drinking creatine mass builders and watching Eastenders.

Ric · 14-09-2004, 10:13 AM

BUMP for Extreme

mutley · 14-09-2004, 01:22 PM

you need to get focused and train hard Dan.

There is a load of crap said about bodybuilding, but 'no pain, no gain' is spot on.

it might sound corny, but that's the way it is. A good training partner will soon show you that!!

good luck mate, stick with it

13-09-2004, 03:43 AM	#1 (permalink)
DanSM Under Construction Join Date: Sep 2004 Posts: 2 Rep Power:	Need advice! ok im not a body builder or anything close, im one of those "lucky" people who can eat as much as they want and never gain weight right now im quite underweight for my hight / age and i need some advice on what supplements to take. from what i can see there are too main types based on either protien or caleries. can anyone tell me which type is the best for someone whos already underweight and wants to bulk up pretty fast?

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Ric Making Progress Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: North West - UK Posts: 168 Rep Power:	BUMP for Extreme ______________________ "Training is not a hobby but a way of life" "All of my advise is for role playing purposes only, I do not in anyway condone the use of steroids"

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13-09-2004, 08:24 AM	#2 (permalink)
mutley Making Progress Join Date: Apr 2004 Posts: 164 Rep Power:	Hi Dan, You're like me and many other's, known as ectomorph's, we find it hard to put on weight. A good start would be to post your diet up on the board so people can comment. As a basic rule of thumb, per day try and hit 3000 calories to start 1-2 grms protein per pound of bodyweight - Tuna and Chicken seem to be the most popular sources, as they are low in fat. 4 grms carbs per pound of bodyweight - stick to quality carbs, both complex and simple. Try and draw these foods from fruit and veg, not chocolate etc. - For people who find it hard to put on weight, you may need to increase your carbs beyond this. I do, otherwise no gain. other MAJOR factors I can think of at the moment (still 1/2 asleep) break your meals up - have 6 - 8 smaller per day. a little one before bed so you're not fasting for too long watch the stress. not too much beer. sleep well and long. As for the training, you need to work SERIOUSLY HARD to get results. You're best bet might be to find a gym buddy to point you in the right direction. good luck mate

13-09-2004, 08:28 AM	#3 (permalink)
mutley Making Progress Join Date: Apr 2004 Posts: 164 Rep Power:	forgot to say - check the old threads out on the diet and training forums

13-09-2004, 11:12 AM	#4 (permalink)
themule Making Progress Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: scotland Posts: 540 Rep Power:	Hi Dan, welcome to the board, as mutley says, post up your current diet, and what sort of goals you have, regarding how much weight do you wish to put on, let us know mate, youll get plenty of help here. Dave.

13-09-2004, 07:35 PM	#5 (permalink)
DanSM Under Construction Join Date: Sep 2004 Posts: 2 Rep Power:	well im not exactly sure how to put my diet up, ive never really measured it before. i eat quite a lot of meat, id guess about 3 portions a day, at least 1-2 pieces of fruit a day and i never eat large portions. i only really have 1 proper meal a day then just snack the rest of the time. i could give u a list of the snacks id eat on an average day but itd be pretty long lol. as for training, i cant stand gyms, i normally just workout at home for about 20 minutes a day but even thats getting hard to stick to, my biggest problem is i have weird joints that keep clicking and getting stiff, especially in my shoulders. ive been thinking about getting some creatine from the healthstore but i think it might just be for people who work out like 2 hours a day. any ideas?

13-09-2004, 10:26 PM	#6 (permalink)
Anonymous Join Date: Dec 2003 Posts: 0 Rep Power:	If you don't train and eat to get bigger the likleyhood is you will eventually get fat. If you are training at home for 20 mins the likleyhood is its not hard enough. You appear to have no motivation so you need a training partner, and you need to join a gym where hopefully your ego will kick in and you will want people to see you get stronger and subsequently get bigger. You should forget creatine, you need to decide what you want in life, a good physique won't happen drinking creatine mass builders and watching Eastenders.

14-09-2004, 01:22 PM	#8 (permalink)
mutley Making Progress Join Date: Apr 2004 Posts: 164 Rep Power:	you need to get focused and train hard Dan. There is a load of crap said about bodybuilding, but 'no pain, no gain' is spot on. it might sound corny, but that's the way it is. A good training partner will soon show you that!! good luck mate, stick with it