Re: Recommendation on Protein and Regime !

Bigga · 08-09-2004, 02:28 PM

I hear what you guys are saying.....one or the other for now.....

Well for the time being I would like to concentrate on building my arms as they look pathetic and not in proportion to my upper body.....I do have definition on my arms but the size is not there....HELP!!!!

........and hopefully losing the belly at a later stage......hopefully I can do so....

Pete · 08-09-2004, 02:28 PM

I bet you could get you're waist size down by training you're abs. You wouldn't be losing fat but you'd strengthen and pull in your stomach. Also if you've only just started training then all the extra energy expediture will help with the fat loss, as long as your diet is clean. I reckon that if there's a time when you can build muscle and lose fat it's when you're starting out!

Ric · 08-09-2004, 02:37 PM

Hmmmm, I agree with you benj to a point but there is a way he can do some of both. BBers do as you state as in, bulk first then strip the excess fat as we know how.

Bigga,
I think if you start by getting the diet sorted so you are getting just enough protein/ carbs & fat for your current bodyweight and keep at that rate (do not calculate in the amount of activity, just the basics). Then as you are training you will build up muscle while loosing fat as you go, not extreme amounts but if you keep it going for say 6 months you should have your waist down to the size you want.

The way to do this is to train BB for 45 mins then go and do some cardio for 15-20 4 times a week.

Then you can look at building yourself up properly by adding more protien & carbs.

PS Stay away from the fatty/ sugary food as much as possible

Bigga · 08-09-2004, 04:09 PM

how do I know how much of what to eat Carbs/Protein.....I have no clue whats so ever.....I am a big eater so I am not shy with food !

mark · 08-09-2004, 04:14 PM

Bump to Ric I am currently losing fat and building my muscles - yes it is slower but with the reduction of the fat the muscles are looking much fuller!

UKbeef · 09-09-2004, 10:18 AM

if you have a large stomach and you train abs surly wont that just make your stomach appear larger? I might be wrong but thats how i thought it worked-?

vinger · 09-09-2004, 10:23 AM

no, it will burn fat so apear smaller eventually.

UKbeef · 09-09-2004, 10:27 AM

i thought fat around the waist was lost through diet. I cant see how any amount of ab work could burn fat.?

vinger · 09-09-2004, 10:48 AM

eh? as long as u burn more calories than u consume you will lose fat.
To burn the calories hes gotta train.

Hes going to be eating more as hes also looking to bulk up his upper body, if he does no ab work at all, then that surly will make his stomach bigger?

Pete · 09-09-2004, 11:04 AM

You can't just reduce fat on you're abs by doing crunches etc.

08-09-2004, 02:37 PM	#13 (permalink)
Ric Making Progress Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: North West - UK Posts: 168 Rep Power:	Hmmmm, I agree with you benj to a point but there is a way he can do some of both. BBers do as you state as in, bulk first then strip the excess fat as we know how. Bigga, I think if you start by getting the diet sorted so you are getting just enough protein/ carbs & fat for your current bodyweight and keep at that rate (do not calculate in the amount of activity, just the basics). Then as you are training you will build up muscle while loosing fat as you go, not extreme amounts but if you keep it going for say 6 months you should have your waist down to the size you want. The way to do this is to train BB for 45 mins then go and do some cardio for 15-20 4 times a week. Then you can look at building yourself up properly by adding more protien & carbs. PS Stay away from the fatty/ sugary food as much as possible ______________________ "Training is not a hobby but a way of life" "All of my advise is for role playing purposes only, I do not in anyway condone the use of steroids"

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08-09-2004, 02:28 PM	#11 (permalink)
Bigga Under Construction Join Date: Sep 2004 Posts: 4 Rep Power:	I hear what you guys are saying.....one or the other for now..... Well for the time being I would like to concentrate on building my arms as they look pathetic and not in proportion to my upper body.....I do have definition on my arms but the size is not there....HELP!!!! ........and hopefully losing the belly at a later stage......hopefully I can do so....

08-09-2004, 02:28 PM	#12 (permalink)
Pete Under Construction Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: NW Posts: 32 Rep Power:	I bet you could get you're waist size down by training you're abs. You wouldn't be losing fat but you'd strengthen and pull in your stomach. Also if you've only just started training then all the extra energy expediture will help with the fat loss, as long as your diet is clean. I reckon that if there's a time when you can build muscle and lose fat it's when you're starting out!

08-09-2004, 04:09 PM	#14 (permalink)
Bigga Under Construction Join Date: Sep 2004 Posts: 4 Rep Power:	how do I know how much of what to eat Carbs/Protein.....I have no clue whats so ever.....I am a big eater so I am not shy with food !

08-09-2004, 04:14 PM	#15 (permalink)
mark Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: England Posts: 365 Rep Power:	Bump to Ric I am currently losing fat and building my muscles - yes it is slower but with the reduction of the fat the muscles are looking much fuller!

09-09-2004, 10:18 AM	#16 (permalink)
UKbeef Under Construction Join Date: Sep 2004 Posts: 28 Rep Power:	if you have a large stomach and you train abs surly wont that just make your stomach appear larger? I might be wrong but thats how i thought it worked-?

09-09-2004, 10:23 AM	#17 (permalink)
vinger Making Progress Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: manchester Posts: 348 Rep Power:	no, it will burn fat so apear smaller eventually.

09-09-2004, 10:27 AM	#18 (permalink)
UKbeef Under Construction Join Date: Sep 2004 Posts: 28 Rep Power:	i thought fat around the waist was lost through diet. I cant see how any amount of ab work could burn fat.?

09-09-2004, 10:48 AM	#19 (permalink)
vinger Making Progress Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: manchester Posts: 348 Rep Power:	eh? as long as u burn more calories than u consume you will lose fat. To burn the calories hes gotta train. Hes going to be eating more as hes also looking to bulk up his upper body, if he does no ab work at all, then that surly will make his stomach bigger?

09-09-2004, 11:04 AM	#20 (permalink)
Pete Under Construction Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: NW Posts: 32 Rep Power:	You can't just reduce fat on you're abs by doing crunches etc.