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Old 01-08-2004, 04:55 PM   #11 (permalink)
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Barry says: Feel free to take as many steroids as you like pal, if your little willy shrivels up I will laugh and say... see, told ya
This statement shows me how little you actually know about steroids Barry, nothing is going to happen to Mr Pinky if you use roids, thats a fact! The only thing that could be affected with some roids (if you use gear over a long period of time) you could possible get TEMPORARY nut shrinkage, this is caused because of the large amount of lets say synthetic test you have in you, your balls may stop producing as much, as its not neededso theres a little fact for you.

Steroids were first invented to keep people alive, fight an illness, make them stronger etc etcso in my book they are not so badthey still use roids like Deca and TestEX on the NHS.
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Old 01-08-2004, 05:03 PM   #12 (permalink)
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guys i think y'all should stop arguing abot this/ lets jus say that theres good and bad in everything. If using roids is gonna increase ur bank balance by about $250,000 for winning mr olympia, then barry, i promise u that u'll be on the roids too. I dont dispute that it can be bad in the long run, but also dont ignore the good it provides. Theres good and bad in everything mate................... now u're probably thinking, "ok if thats the case, whats so good about crack cocaine". Well, it brought the price of pussy down to a fiver. heee heee!! Shamone.......
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Old 02-08-2004, 01:20 AM   #13 (permalink)
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he gets more then 250 000 think about it he gets so many free supps a free car plus all kinds of a$$ so why the hell not

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Old 02-08-2004, 08:19 AM   #14 (permalink)
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1981Neil,

Short term usage will result in temporary shrinkage of the testes, long term may well have more permanent affects on them and the libido.

Short term and long term affects upon the liver and kidneys are going to happen regardless, only question is to what degrees of damage, precautions used in the form of PCT are no guarantee that damage will be prevented completely during a single cycle, over the course of many cycles you might just figure this is one big risk...

To ensure your natural testosterone production resumes after a cycle you need to use supplements, how many times before this fails?

A bodybuilder is not an NHS patient generally so the usage of steroids is something he or she chooses presumably while healthy initially so your analogy is void.

The most obvious reason why so many competitive bodybuilders and others are using steroids and alternatives is because they want to get big as fast as possible and know that others are going to use them.

However, there is a more ominous reason why the competitive bodybuilders are using them and that's to be able to handle the strain of over training.

I'm not going to indulge in your estrogen induced (it's in the water) bitching, and if you feel you are so genetically lacking that you need to take steroids, that's fine... go ahead, but don't try telling me they are harmless and no damage is done, facts speak for themselves, but you obviously think it's worth it.

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Barry says: Feel free to take as many steroids as you like pal, if your little willy shrivels up I will laugh and say... see, told ya
This statement shows me how little you actually know about steroids Barry, nothing is going to happen to Mr Pinky if you use roids, thats a fact! The only thing that could be affected with some roids (if you use gear over a long period of time) you could possible get TEMPORARY nut shrinkage, this is caused because of the large amount of lets say synthetic test you have in you, your balls may stop producing as much, as its not neededso theres a little fact for you.

Steroids were first invented to keep people alive, fight an illness, make them stronger etc etcso in my book they are not so badthey still use roids like Deca and TestEX on the NHS.
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Excellent thread guys. I like it.......
Look out at this years Olympics for people passing out. When they say its heat exhaustion thats bollox, its insulin.
The news of the new test for growth hormone has them all running scared and the only option now is the famous insulin with NO CARBS regime. Its so crazy that I wont post it here for fear of someone really messing up but from what I have been told its all the rage and obviously undetectable.
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$250'000 would not induce me to take steroids, not even once, lol you think I am cheap or something

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The most obvious reason why so many competitive bodybuilders and others are using steroids and alternatives is because they want to get big as fast as possible and know that others are going to use them.
Thats not strictly true, Yes steroids do bring faster gains, but its not the reason the pro's use them, even with hundreds of years of training, theres no way Pro bodybuilders could get to the size they are!

Like it or not every pro bodybuilder uses steroids ,some are open about it some like to keep it quiet, theres no way round it, to keep up you have to use them!

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totally agree,look at flex wheeler

sald he was gonna compete without them,

due to his kidney problems..

you dont here of him anymore.and if you see him,the amount of size he has lost so quick :shock:
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Old 02-08-2004, 03:08 PM   #19 (permalink)
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What size is that freakish? Who would want to look like Ronnie Coleman. Sure he is extremely massive but his body is not pleasing to the eye, lacks proportion and isn't symetrical. Without Steroids he could still be massive and could still win, if not we would have Mr.Olympia's all over the place.

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The most obvious reason why so many competitive bodybuilders and others are using steroids and alternatives is because they want to get big as fast as possible and know that others are going to use them.
Thats not strictly true, Yes steroids do bring faster gains, but its not the reason the pro's use them, even with hundreds of years of training, theres no way Pro bodybuilders could get to the size they are!

Like it or not every pro bodybuilder uses steroids ,some are open about it some like to keep it quiet, theres no way round it, to keep up you have to use them!
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Old 02-08-2004, 03:31 PM   #20 (permalink)
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What gave him kidney problems or helped them deteriorate?

Fact is new standards are being set by natural bodybuilders everyday and with it new training regimes/methods, this is resulting in folk having to re-examine what they previously thought was unobtainable without steroids.

When we talk about the Mr.Olympia we are talking about a contest run by the IFBB owned by Weider, word is that the contests are fixed anyway. Weider as you know, also really cares about the health of bodybuilders don't they?

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totally agree,look at flex wheeler

sald he was gonna compete without them,

due to his kidney problems..

you dont here of him anymore.and if you see him,the amount of size he has lost so quick :shock:
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