winstrol

pete99

im about to start a course of winstrol and i just wanted some advice before i do can anyone please tell me what the side affects are and if it is actually a good one to use?

PScarb

A good one to use???

What are your stats, what are your goals? what PCT have you put together?, how long have you been training?

Rottie

With the correct diet which anyone needs to train naturally you will make decent gains but with AAS you will still need to stick to this routine if you want to make far better gains than you would naturally, steroids are not just some wonder drug you can take and just grow without still practising the correct diet and training regimen, but if you follow what I've said and take 50mg each day of Winstrol (hopefully along with a liver protectant such as LIV-52 or Milk Thistle) as Winstrol is a 17-aa alkylated oral to make it survive the first pass through the liver, then you should make nice lean, ripped gains without water retention providing your bodyfat is low enough. If it is the injectable Winstrol then Winstrol by Zambon is a decent buy but you may experience pain the day after injecting and Winstrol has also been linked to joint pain, maybe because of the strength gain not being accompanied by water retention, so adding a small amount of Test may help with this and the Winstrol may also bind to the SHBG (Sex Hormone Binding Globulin) freeing up bound Test so probably increasing the effect of that steroid). If you still want to be sure of lean gains with minimal water retention then Test Prop at 100mg eod might work best for you alongside the Winny.

pete99

thanks for the info the winnie ive got is the injectable one do you really have to take 1 jab a day because i was told to do them one a week and do i still need the liver protectant with these?

Rottie

Yeah, every day mate, be careful with your source he does not seem to know what he's talking about and you would get no gains and waste your money completely at that dosage frequency, any one on this board will tell you at least 50mg (1 amp) every day which is very suitable for someone like you who is new to steroids. If you are uncomfortable with that many injections you can drink the Winny by drawing it into the syringe taking the pin off putting the end of the barrel in your mouth and squirt into mouth, gains will be something like having 50mg of the oral version which will still yield decent results but not as good as the injectable. Don't forget to shake amp before opening to take out of suspension and draw into pin then shake barrel for good measure to make sure it stays out of suspension and crystals do not block end of barrel or pin before pressing plunger. If you're concerned about injection frequency which I wouldn't blame you for because the day after can be painful, then you in future should get the orals and have 50mg a day. For now if you're concerned about injections drink the Winny and take LIV-52 for liver protection, but I would take EQ or Test Prop as the Winny drunk alone will not provide as much gains as injecting it. If you don't mind bulking up rather than being lean and muscular and want to spend less money go for 500mg of either TEST Enanthate, Sustanon or Test cypionate a week e.g. 250mg Test Enanthate on Monday then 250mg on Thurs day whilst drinking the Winny Every day throughout, do this for 8 weeks.

pete99

thanks again for the info it was very helpful im gonna stick with the injectable it does hurt the day after but i can bare it their is one thing i wanted to know does this winnie make you stronger like most other steriods? my sourse says so but as you noticed he's not much help at all.

Rottie

Yeah, he's a loon, people like him could one day give out the wrong advice to some kid and say you can have anadrol with halotestin or something and cause a fatality! But what you have done is right coming on a board and asking for advice although it wouldn't have hurt to type in something like ''Winstrol steroid profile'' on google first and you would have been half way there, then you could have come on here and asked about peoples experiences with the steroid. And yes with a decent enough diet and training regime Winny will definitely make you stronger though not as much as Testosterone will. The gains will be easier to keep hold of than with Test though with the correct PCT procedure. Good luck mate, I hope you achieve everything you are aiming for.

pete99

rottie i hope you dont mind me puckin your brains to much but one of my pals in on that testex an he says with that you only have to do 50mg every 5 days do you think this would be better for me cos it sounds alot cheaper *** Edited - PRICE DISCUSSION IS NOT ALLOWED

LeeB

testex and winstrol are 2 completely different things mate

testex will give good results but depending on bodyfat levels it will not give the same "look" as winstrol.

also 50mg testex every 5 days will do nothing for you, your more likely looking at 250mg-500mg every 5 days.

hope this helps

Rottie

Yep mate, listen to Lee B, you'll need about 500mg a week to see good results and at least 250mg. You didn't go back to this idiot and get the Testex did you? If I could I would happily get hold of some decent stuff for you but can't tell you about sources on any forums mate. See if you can find a different source if possible and don't be afraid to question certain things, a good source shoul understand you saying '' i've heard on all the bodybuilding boards you have to use 500mg a week in two seperate dosages of 250mg'' for example. A bad source will just react aggressively saying something like'' why are you calling me a liar or something.'' My source doesn't have the biggest selection but when he is misinformed with a certain product he doesn't know much about and I say '' Your meant to use that tren ace eod mate, not 2 times a week, every one I know uses it eod at least'' he will just say Oh sorry mate I don't know much about that product, and even if I suspect he did I'll let him know that I won't be mugged off by him ever again.