Insulin - Diabetic

mark1 · 10-09-2006, 12:39 AM

I'm an insulin dependant diabetic and have recently started trying to bulk up. A friend recons that insulin has anabolic properties and should assist my attempts to put on a bit of muscle and bulk up....... is this true???

I'm new to all this and at the moment trying to bulk using whey protein and diet, as well as training of course. There are so many products on the market, can anyone assist by giving a brief breakdown of what a beginner should do to make satisfactory gains.

Thanks

Mark1

crazycal1 · 10-09-2006, 11:11 AM

this is a good beginners training routine-
http://www.musclechat.co.uk/viewtopic.php?t=2071

Nick500 · 10-09-2006, 11:48 AM

I think he was more after advice on insulin-specific manipulation to aid his training.

mark1 i suppose the easiest quick change you could make (please verify with a doctor) is to shoot your insulin upon waking and after your workout, with some very good quality protein like whey protein or some BCAAs, and some quality carbs (maybe high GI?) - please do research as its a medical related question though

mark1 · 11-09-2006, 12:30 AM

Thanks guys!

Not sure about the insulin thing, but I'll see what happens, I guess, over the next few months. Not convinced that because I take insulin I'll see better gains!

I'll give the training routine a go and see how things progress. Thanks again. M

razg · 11-09-2006, 12:39 AM

Don't take advice from anyone online regarding insulin usage unless they are very well experienced with slin - no disrespect to Nick but insulin can kill you.

Nick500 · 11-09-2006, 12:48 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by razg

Don't take advice from anyone online regarding insulin usage unless they are very well experienced with slin - no disrespect to Nick but insulin can kill you.

i agree and no offence taken

mark1 · 11-09-2006, 01:18 AM

Misunderstanding here i think....I'm not looking for advice on insulin. i've been a diabetic for over 24 years, so well aware of dangers of misuse. My question was does it have properties which will aid muscle gain? I'm taking it anyway and dont intend to change my dosage or methods, other than to compensate for my increased food intake. It was a friend who suggested there wher benefits, wrt musecle gains. Just wanted to see if there was anyone out there who could explain or rubbish this.

**LeeB** · 11-09-2006, 09:33 AM

i dont think anyone on here is really qualified to give advice on this in all honesty mark...

pscarb knows his stuff... however i feel many people may be reluctant to make comment as insulin use requires a very fine knowledge of your own body and very specific bodybuilding nutrition... as you well know getting this wrong can kill you. obviously you have to accept that when advice is given sometimes people may only listen to parts of it or misinterpret it... and that could leave someone ggiving you that advice responsible for health problems!

the top and bottom of it is insulin helps transport nutrients through the bloodstream to the muscles... and obviously if you improve this process then the end result (muscles getting more nutrients means better growth) - kind of like fuel injection on a car i suppose!

although how this works with people who are in fact insulin dependent im not 100% sure... id suggest doing some research on this and maybe posting a seperate topic giving details on what type of insulin you use and when.. and what you currently eat etc. and just asking for knowledgeable opinions and experience of others in your condition of how to best structure your training and nutrition to avoid any "accidents".

however please keep in mind that for reasons mentioned above people may be reluctant to comment! hope this helps mate!

crazycal1 · 11-09-2006, 11:01 AM

thats why i just suggested a training routine as you said you were new to all this!

and over to pscarb

mark1 · 14-09-2006, 10:43 PM

Thanks for the advice guys!!

10-09-2006, 12:39 AM	#1 (permalink)
mark1 Under Construction Join Date: Sep 2006 Posts: 4 Rep Power:	Insulin - Diabetic I'm an insulin dependant diabetic and have recently started trying to bulk up. A friend recons that insulin has anabolic properties and should assist my attempts to put on a bit of muscle and bulk up....... is this true??? I'm new to all this and at the moment trying to bulk using whey protein and diet, as well as training of course. There are so many products on the market, can anyone assist by giving a brief breakdown of what a beginner should do to make satisfactory gains. Thanks Mark1

10-09-2006, 11:11 AM	#2 (permalink)
crazycal1 Illuminati Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Nowhere Posts: 2,911 Rep Power:	this is a good beginners training routine- http://www.musclechat.co.uk/viewtopic.php?t=2071 ______________________ einsteins mind was the key to all things...to understand more than to know. www.englishmuscle.co.uk www.extremenutrition.co.uk

10-09-2006, 11:48 AM	#3 (permalink)
Nick500 Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Bristol Posts: 3,230 Rep Power:	I think he was more after advice on insulin-specific manipulation to aid his training. mark1 i suppose the easiest quick change you could make (please verify with a doctor) is to shoot your insulin upon waking and after your workout, with some very good quality protein like whey protein or some BCAAs, and some quality carbs (maybe high GI?) - please do research as its a medical related question though ______________________ - Obsession is what lazy people call dedication -

11-09-2006, 09:33 AM	#8 (permalink)
LeeB Moderator Musclechat Icon Join Date: May 2006 Posts: 1,992 Rep Power:	i dont think anyone on here is really qualified to give advice on this in all honesty mark... pscarb knows his stuff... however i feel many people may be reluctant to make comment as insulin use requires a very fine knowledge of your own body and very specific bodybuilding nutrition... as you well know getting this wrong can kill you. obviously you have to accept that when advice is given sometimes people may only listen to parts of it or misinterpret it... and that could leave someone ggiving you that advice responsible for health problems! the top and bottom of it is insulin helps transport nutrients through the bloodstream to the muscles... and obviously if you improve this process then the end result (muscles getting more nutrients means better growth) - kind of like fuel injection on a car i suppose! although how this works with people who are in fact insulin dependent im not 100% sure... id suggest doing some research on this and maybe posting a seperate topic giving details on what type of insulin you use and when.. and what you currently eat etc. and just asking for knowledgeable opinions and experience of others in your condition of how to best structure your training and nutrition to avoid any "accidents". however please keep in mind that for reasons mentioned above people may be reluctant to comment! hope this helps mate! ______________________ If your not a part of the greatest... you got to be the greatest yourself! For the best supplements: www.extremenutrition.co.uk

11-09-2006, 11:01 AM	#9 (permalink)
crazycal1 Illuminati Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Nowhere Posts: 2,911 Rep Power:	thats why i just suggested a training routine as you said you were new to all this! and over to pscarb ______________________ einsteins mind was the key to all things...to understand more than to know. www.englishmuscle.co.uk www.extremenutrition.co.uk

11-09-2006, 12:30 AM	#4 (permalink)
mark1 Under Construction Join Date: Sep 2006 Posts: 4 Rep Power:	Thanks guys! Not sure about the insulin thing, but I'll see what happens, I guess, over the next few months. Not convinced that because I take insulin I'll see better gains! I'll give the training routine a go and see how things progress. Thanks again. M

11-09-2006, 12:39 AM	#5 (permalink)
razg Legend Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Birmingham/Bristol Posts: 886 Rep Power:	Don't take advice from anyone online regarding insulin usage unless they are very well experienced with slin - no disrespect to Nick but insulin can kill you.

11-09-2006, 01:18 AM	#7 (permalink)
mark1 Under Construction Join Date: Sep 2006 Posts: 4 Rep Power:	Misunderstanding here i think....I'm not looking for advice on insulin. i've been a diabetic for over 24 years, so well aware of dangers of misuse. My question was does it have properties which will aid muscle gain? I'm taking it anyway and dont intend to change my dosage or methods, other than to compensate for my increased food intake. It was a friend who suggested there wher benefits, wrt musecle gains. Just wanted to see if there was anyone out there who could explain or rubbish this.

14-09-2006, 10:43 PM	#10 (permalink)
mark1 Under Construction Join Date: Sep 2006 Posts: 4 Rep Power:	Thanks for the advice guys!!

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