Gaining as much mass as possible

jack22

hi guys i have been training for around 12 months after a gap of around 3 years ,the first time i trained i could eat like a horse but cant seem to get my self to eat half as much this time my appetite has just gone is there anything i can take to boost my appetite,could it be the steroids iam on .and also i feel i should train more but struggle with my shift pattern ? i try to go 3 times in eight days but feel i could go more and maybe split my routine a bit more ?

Squatty

HI mate. Good to have you on board.

Can you say a bit more about:
1) your training (how do you break your workouts down over the three days)
2) Your diet (what exactly are you eating on a typical day)
3) What gear are you taking
4) What are your stats (age, height, weight etc)

If you post up a bit more detail, I'm sure you'll get lots of good help

jack22

i train chest and tricepts day 1, shoulders and bicepts da2 and legs and back day 3 with abs and cardo in between
At the moment iam doing 2ml of testx every 7 days 1ml of sustanon every 4 days and 5 5mg tablts of dianadol.
with amimo acids 10 capules a day for 6 weeks


I have natural yougurt with nuts and dried fruit or a couple of poached eggs on toast , porridge or weetabix aroud 8am.
Then cottage cheese and a jacket potatoe ,tuna salad ,chiken and pitta bread with veg ,a chiken sandwhich around 12
Then chicken curry and rice ,jacket potatoe with cheese and beans ,chiken pasta or a meal replacement .around 3
Then steak and salad with potatoes,tuna and noddles or a meal replacment aroun 7
I also have fruit ,milk and plenty of water in between with a protein drink before training .



1 am 34, 11 stone about 5ft 5. i just cant seem to keep the weight i gain on .

Squatty

I'm interested in what some of the other guys will say but it looks like the problem is with your diet. Thats quite a big cycle you're doing but you don't seem to be eating enough (I've assumed you're only eating one of those meals each meal time). With that cycle you should be aiming for 6 to 7 meals (even if a couple of them are protein shakes or MRPs)

I also wonder how much your shifts buggar you up. I've got a mate I train with occassionaly and since he's been doing shifts, he finds it hard to get any sort of consistency into either his training or his meals. Also, because the change in shift patterns from days to nights can be quite abrupt, he is often too tired to give his training his best. Does that apply to you? Perhaps there are some other shift workers on the forum who can give you their way of managing their training.

You mentioned going more often than 3 days a week and splitting your routine - that might be a good idea. Day three with legs and back looks particularly heavy

wigz

yeah increase your food intake,

i work shifts and i don't have an answer, i just try and get as much rest as possible and fit my workouts around my shifts which means no training partner which is a pain.

LeeB

personaly id say thats quite a high overall dose of test for your stats mate! which as you mentioned could be causing loss of apeptite.. as well as the oral dbol your taking..

i think the problem looks to be with your diet... 2 things spring out to me here...

1 - consistency... to get the best out of diet and training you really need a consistent approach to your nutrition and training.. especially so when working shifts or if you have family commitments etc.. you should basically break down what different patterns (shifts) your life follows and adapt your eating and training to suit each day... for instance... i eat the same meals day in day out... some days i train first thing in morning.. some days i train in the evening and some days i train at lunchtime (ish)... i pre-prepare everything.. for teh next day and basically just eat the same meals but at different times of the day depending on what type of day it is! does this make sense? im basically saying each day should be planned out in advance!

2 - you dont mention what you eat before/ after training... it would be much easier if you broke each meal down and gave us a list and mark out which meals you have before and after training... i.e.

meal 1 (7am)... blah blah

meal 2 (10am)...blah blah

meal 3 (12pm - before trainin)... blah blah

this will help you structure your diet so your ensuring your getting the right nutrients at the right times... also do you weigh your food? i.e. do you work out how much protein/carbs/fat your having for each meal?

for me making a guess from what you wrote about your diet it looks as though 2 key times of teh day you could be missing out on essential carbohydrate intake... these are morning and after training! like i say if you break down your nutrition as i have suggested above it should give us a starting point to offer some suggestions for you.

jack22

Thanks for the reply mate , at 7am i have porridge and 2 poached eggs on toast and a glass of milk or water.
At 10am i have a tuna salad with a glass of milk
At 12pm i have chicken and rice and water
plus fruit and rice cakes in between .

LeeB

is that ALL you eat? in a full day???

Nick500

please tell me this isn't everything you eat... ??

Young Gun

I know it isn't everything there is a more detailed post above but you do seriously need to eat more buddy.

There will be some great diet posts around look up pscarbs I'm sure he has one posted and I have a bulking and cutting diet sticky posted also in that section