Working into a Cyclone !!!

chocolatemelter · 27-04-2006, 04:20 PM

Hi Guys & Gals,

Now I'm back training my goals are to get bigger overall on upper body (I'm lucky in that I have big legs naturally and I can't train them that hard anyway as I have no kneecap in my right leg) and to lose bodyfat, especially around my belly and those fantastic bloke love handles !!.

Being fairly new to diet and nutrition and training is it possible to build up a bigger upper body, whilst losing bodyfat from the stomach at the same time, and I bought 4 tubs of cyclone the other week (It was before I knew about extreme nutrition before the boys come round to break my other kneecap lol!!) but on the tub it says to take it regularly daily in which case a tub would last 10 days, however a bloke down the gym has said that this is just a case of a supplement company getting you to "overdose" as it does you no harm and you use it quicker and in turn buy more. He said what I should do is take it just before and straight after I train.

So my other questions are:-

Am I on the right supplement?
Is he right about when I should take it or is the tub right?
Should I be taking any kind of Fat burner to help with losing bodyfat?

Thanks in advance for your help

CM.

Nick500 · 27-04-2006, 04:46 PM

There are many FAR cheaper alternatives to cyclone, yet as you have it, taking it regularly is a good thing. Don't worry about having too much but keep to your calorific goals.

Nick

chocolatemelter · 27-04-2006, 04:52 PM

So is a calorific goal so many calories a day? I try to eat clean, but find being strict very difficult. If it is calories a day how many should I aim for and how should they be made up? I'm currently 6'0 tall and weight about 14 and a half stone.

mark300 · 27-04-2006, 06:08 PM

Im sure someone on here could tell you roughly how many calories you should be consuming a day! depending on your goals you will either want to be below your maintenance calories i.e for a cut or above for bulking.

Rocks703 · 27-04-2006, 07:47 PM

I'd just use the cyclone for a PWO drink and supplement your diet with another Whey protein source.

chocolatemelter · 27-04-2006, 08:34 PM

Rocks, Would that be before or after the 6 pints of Guinness we had last night dude !!!

Rocks703 · 28-04-2006, 08:31 AM

They are the sort of workouts where I've seen the best growth! Just not where I've wanted it, Doh!

Nick500 · 28-04-2006, 10:46 AM

chocolatemelter, i would suggest going for around 3500 CLEAN calories per day with your stats.

Things to bear in mind when your sorting out calories:

1g protein - 4cals
1g carbs - 4 cals
1g fat = 9 cals

So if you aren't eating clean and eating lots of fat, then you dramatically should reduce carbs to compensate...

Nick

***MMUK*** · 28-04-2006, 09:54 PM

Melter, get a good whey protein powder. Depending upon your diet I'd say one for breakfast (unless you have a solid protein at this time), one after training and possibly one at bedtime.

This is subject to me assuming your current protein intake will be low.

Fat people get fat through overeating carbs and fats, muscular people get big through overeating protein - unless they are genetic freaks like Bodyworks!

27-04-2006, 04:20 PM	#1 (permalink)
chocolatemelter Under Construction Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Norwich, Norfolk Posts: 13 Rep Power:	Working into a Cyclone !!! Hi Guys & Gals, Now I'm back training my goals are to get bigger overall on upper body (I'm lucky in that I have big legs naturally and I can't train them that hard anyway as I have no kneecap in my right leg) and to lose bodyfat, especially around my belly and those fantastic bloke love handles !!. Being fairly new to diet and nutrition and training is it possible to build up a bigger upper body, whilst losing bodyfat from the stomach at the same time, and I bought 4 tubs of cyclone the other week (It was before I knew about extreme nutrition before the boys come round to break my other kneecap lol!!) but on the tub it says to take it regularly daily in which case a tub would last 10 days, however a bloke down the gym has said that this is just a case of a supplement company getting you to "overdose" as it does you no harm and you use it quicker and in turn buy more. He said what I should do is take it just before and straight after I train. So my other questions are:- Am I on the right supplement? Is he right about when I should take it or is the tub right? Should I be taking any kind of Fat burner to help with losing bodyfat? Thanks in advance for your help CM.

27-04-2006, 04:46 PM	#2 (permalink)
Nick500 Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Bristol Posts: 3,232 Rep Power:	There are many FAR cheaper alternatives to cyclone, yet as you have it, taking it regularly is a good thing. Don't worry about having too much but keep to your calorific goals. Nick ______________________ - Obsession is what lazy people call dedication -

28-04-2006, 10:46 AM	#8 (permalink)
Nick500 Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Bristol Posts: 3,232 Rep Power:	chocolatemelter, i would suggest going for around 3500 CLEAN calories per day with your stats. Things to bear in mind when your sorting out calories: 1g protein - 4cals 1g carbs - 4 cals 1g fat = 9 cals So if you aren't eating clean and eating lots of fat, then you dramatically should reduce carbs to compensate... Nick ______________________ - Obsession is what lazy people call dedication -

28-04-2006, 09:54 PM	#9 (permalink)
*MMUK* Musclechat Management Muscle Chat Management Join Date: Mar 2006 Posts: 3,538 Rep Power:	Melter, get a good whey protein powder. Depending upon your diet I'd say one for breakfast (unless you have a solid protein at this time), one after training and possibly one at bedtime. This is subject to me assuming your current protein intake will be low. Fat people get fat through overeating carbs and fats, muscular people get big through overeating protein - unless they are genetic freaks like Bodyworks! ______________________ MMUK Musclechat.co.uk Manager

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27-04-2006, 04:52 PM	#3 (permalink)
chocolatemelter Under Construction Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Norwich, Norfolk Posts: 13 Rep Power:	So is a calorific goal so many calories a day? I try to eat clean, but find being strict very difficult. If it is calories a day how many should I aim for and how should they be made up? I'm currently 6'0 tall and weight about 14 and a half stone.

27-04-2006, 06:08 PM	#4 (permalink)
mark300 Making Progress Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: UK Posts: 142 Rep Power:	Im sure someone on here could tell you roughly how many calories you should be consuming a day! depending on your goals you will either want to be below your maintenance calories i.e for a cut or above for bulking.

27-04-2006, 07:47 PM	#5 (permalink)
Rocks703 Under Construction Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Norfolk, England Posts: 41 Rep Power:	I'd just use the cyclone for a PWO drink and supplement your diet with another Whey protein source.

27-04-2006, 08:34 PM	#6 (permalink)
chocolatemelter Under Construction Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Norwich, Norfolk Posts: 13 Rep Power:	Rocks, Would that be before or after the 6 pints of Guinness we had last night dude !!!

28-04-2006, 08:31 AM	#7 (permalink)
Rocks703 Under Construction Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Norfolk, England Posts: 41 Rep Power:	They are the sort of workouts where I've seen the best growth! Just not where I've wanted it, Doh!