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Originally Posted by wogihao  Im going to be honest with you, I dont think your find that any of the gains on cycle are keepable in the long run. With cycleing as it stands now your basicly going on for say 9 weeks then takeing 9 weeks off before your doing another cycle in many cases (with time on time off) when you think about it your only realy going to be clear of the meds for 4-5 weeks depending on the medication used and the amounts.
so you crash for 4 weeks then go back on but your not going to be off long enough to lose it all so thats classed as a keepable gain..
I would say without aas suplementation or slin/hgh use you wont keep any of the gains from a cycle over the long term without going back on fairly sharpish. |
i agree 100% with this. years of training wields permanent gains. drugs provide short term alterations to the physique due to the influence of hormones. remove the exogenous hormones, and the alterations made will gradually (or maybe not so gradually) subside. what's left is what you've earned through hard work, that's all.
as for any cutting cycles, remember the key ingredient is fat loss. the drugs you mentioned are there to support muscle retention, possibly provide a slight increase in muscle density, and give you a 'harder' looking physique. none of that will happen without dropping bodyfat, which those drugs don't do.