Pikey

Fair point Cal - I certainly wouldn't advocate training like that all the time - although a friend I sort out does but he's more bothered about shape and symetry than pure bulk, as I've said many times I think you need to keep mixing it up. And there's no doubt 27 years in I have a fair idea how my body responds to different stimuli.

THS - yep you have the frame to hang a lot of muscle off - 265 leanish ie abs out should be very achievable in a few years with good diet and hard work.