maybe i was getting abit excited in my post -lol-but i will try to explain what i meant-
i want to be the size of lacy but with strength too-i think calzaghe was way stronger than lacy-who bullied who?
muscularity doesnt always lead to strength (ask andy)-
what i was trying to say was although joes physique aint all that his strength was greater-probably cos its a more natural weight for him-
i want to hit 12ish stone maintain it -and then keep getting stronger at that weight-
i wanna look like that old geezer at 65 on that other thread-but more good looking-

heh heh heh