some very solid advice given in this thread particularly from GTForce. All opinions agreed. I think one of the most valuable points to come outta this was gear dependancy.
How many people do you know who start gear too young say that have said this will be my only cycle then il be where i wanna be.
Once cycle is finished the dedication to train and eat never being there the sudden gaining stops and gains are perhaps lost in pct.
Person gets very upset and decides to do gear again and barely has the motivation to train unless juicing. At which point he becomes an egotistical prick giving roids a bad name.
Agreed with GT's criteria and happy to say I can quite easily do all of them and as yet am gear free.
Oh and Divie I don't think anyone can question your pasiion pall a suitcase is a hell of alot of paper that must have been a hell of alot of research. Congrats on your gains btw.
TT