yeah they are good jay,
i rate them the number 1 tricep exercise,
me and my mate used to do em with 80kg on the legs, anything more and it was harder being the spotter than the one doing the exercise
now i am training at home,i can only go upto 40, poor missus she has to lift it on me,
i,ve never done the pushups, i,ll give em ago let you no how i get on.
cheers