try taking it with either primobolan or winstrol injectables. They will counter balance the cycle and give you better longer lasting gains as they do not really cause water retention. You could also try them with a longer lasting ester such as boldenone, this is quite similar to the primo and winny only stronger, and unlike the winny, does not need to be injected every other day. Or good old Deca is a good choice. Personally, i prefer to not use sus/test when using dbol, its just all gains, come off, all shrinking, as the gains are mainly just water retention. if you have more patience, then try using the dbol as only a kick start of a cycle of primo, winny or boldenone. You will get much longer lasting, quality gains from these substances. you could do week 1-6 dbol, week 1-10 primo/winny/boldenone and week 1-10 deca. probable not the wiiny though unless you have a penchant for sticking needles in your ass. you would also need some hcg and clomid/nolvadex after the cycle as the dbol inhibits natural testosterone production. |